It's just realistic. Reality is infinitely more complex than anything which the mind of man can invent. I've seen average IQ people come up with some of the best insights, and develop a cohesive understanding of reality and their place in it that rivals or surpasses my own in the most essential respects, and I test exceptionally high on IQ tests.
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So like, just to be extra clear, this is not to undermine your original point at all. I just like to decouple correlations to reveal the nuance underlying them. Wisdom and intelligence may be correlated, but this is nowhere near a universally applicable thing, especially as observed in midwits who are generally smart enough to convince themselves of bullshit, and the revelation that the smarter you get, the better you are at this, generally. Other influences start to become pretty major past the hump in the bell and that's where the tendency to become aware of biases, limitations, and proper thinking is enough to, on average, effectively counteract the ability to fool oneself
So really, you're exactly right about the general tendency. I just also find it extremely important to highlight that curious, open minded people, and people who take the time to think through the implications of their own uncertainty, exist all over the IQ curve, and those too can achieve self awareness or excellence.
I'll honestly admit you're too smart for me today, I'm ill last week and absolutely exhausted now at half eleven at night. I was thinking about it more from the point of education and capabilities, that if you're one step below being the best, you will undermine yourself terribly. But that was quite limited view, which I realized after your response.
Also you used the word limit, where I understand deficiency as a failure.
What is failure but a sign of where your limitations currently lie? I suck ass at video games, but awareness of this helps me to have fun with it in spite of my competitiveness. I get competitive with myself instead of with other people, or at certain niches in the game where I am uniquely better than other players, until sometimes I win consistently on certain maps with certain characters. Excellence via awareness of my retardation lol!
I make mixups like that all the time or use loose language to convey a general point that's rather narrow and approximate and even shortsighted rather than precise, and I see nothing inherently wrong with doing that whatsoever. That's what discussions and critical thinking are for! I like when people have a back and forth with me, and offer different ways of conceptualizing things, and it's totally fine if they're not pedantically precise about everything.
It can sometimes be helpful to be super precise, and that's something I'm good at, but you don't ever have to feel bad about saying something that happened to be wrong or that was right but imprecise. If I correct you or offer an alternative viewpoint, I'm really just building on the wisdom that you bring. If you hadn't said it, I wouldn't have been able to engage with it, and I do so love engaging in discussions, which is why I do it.
Education is a good point too! If we substitute that for IQ I bet you're right and the same tendency holds true.
One of the reasons I quite don't like the IQ metric. Seems... liquid
I like it because I got good numbers.👀🤣
This is the way lmao
And never ever do the test again.
and choose the test wisely. Like the one in your spam folder for $30 is probably it.
or that one is school...
I did several, at psychologists and stuff. The biggest one was at some centre for career help when I was about to choose high school. It took few hours, only me and a lady timing my progress, seemed legit. My mom was then beating me with the results, because I had the worst grades and high evaluation. I never got better grades.😄
I guess we here at Nostr can all see the point.
And that's where I committed the cardinal sin lol! I thought hey, this test is biased by time! Maybe my IQ is actually a few points higher! So I took a new one a few weeks ago that advertised it's even more accurate, on a good brain day, and it was about the same lol! Phew at least the same! Technically 2 points higher. Never taking one again unless I have a lapse of judgment lmao
Oh I went through absolute clusterfuck when having babies. Neurosis, sleep deprivation, anxieties, heart problems from that. Loss of memory, easily distracted. We can call it milked out brain.
I'm NEVER doing IQ test again.
Yeah let's just say you're high IQ plus been through some shit, whatever that works out to lol!
