For those of you that don't like seed oils... what do you think about yellow mustard? Do you avoid it?

I'm just curious because yellow mustard is from the seeds of a Brassica plant, same as canola oil is. But I haven't heard people preaching that mustard is poison.

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I think it’s the way it’s processed that’s the problem…..but I’m no expert.

I avoid all plants/seeds

So I'm one of these people.

It's not the fact that the oils are from seeds. It's the fact that they're processed and extracted in high heat. Heat damages fats and fatty acids, causes them to oxidize and react in strange ways. They're complex molecules and many can cause metabolic disruption.

Cold pressed seed oils are fine, provided of course there's no other toxins in there like glyphosate or something natural in the plant seed that's bad or taken up from the soil. Also, different plant oils have different fats and fatty acids in them, too much of some is not good and all that, but that applies to any source of fat and isn't specific to seeds.

Thanks. Makes sense.

Black cumin seed oil is based

Mustard is actually a good source of selenium, though I don't tend to consume it as of right now.

Brassica is a genus. Mustard and canola are two different species in that genus. If you enjoy felines, you may like having a house cat, but you probably wouldn't enjoy having a house tiger.

Mike. My best advice is, plough your own furrow, don't believe everything you read, live free. We will all meet our maker, sooner or later, I'm at peace with that. Eat WTF you want. Drink as much as you wish, just enjoy fucking life.

do you like leather boots Mike ?

did you know that leather comes from the same species as Butter ?

bet you will go barefoot from now on !

I'm barefoot right now. I take off my shoes at every opportunity. But if I had leather boots I'd rub them with butter to soften them up. No other use for that stuff.

looked up Canola oil on Wikipedia just now ... only because of you since i had zero intention of consuming it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeseed_oil

apparently it is regulated to maximum 2% erucic acid that is shown in studies to damage the cardiac muscle, with more stringent limits for oil meant to be consumed by infants ( but you're not an infant so it's OK if you die )

i need cardiac damage in my life - don't you ? i mean what kind of fool would use cooking oils that don't even contain any known toxins ?

with so many oils and fats to choose from clearly the only rational choice is the one that has to be regulated by government for its content of a known poison, with that content varying based on how important the government deems your survival to be.

if some buffon on YouTube says it's good then it must be true. what more proof do you need ?

People in India have been using mustard seed oil and rapeseed oil for many generations and nobody seems to get cardiac muscle damage. AFAIK there is zero evidence of this in humans. Just because it happens in rats, the regulators got scared and did this to us. I don't think the "low acid" makes any significant difference.

So if you take rapeseeds, not GM modified to be "roundup ready" but the original ones, not cross-bred to be low-acid, cold press extract the oil, and don't chemically remove the taste, I admit that would probably be a healthier oil. But nobody around here sells it.

life expectancy in India is 17 years shorter than in Japan

Japanese get their Omega 3 from Fish like me

Indians from rapeseed like you

as for mustard ... things that taste bitter are usually poisons ... this is the whole point of the bitter taste sensation - to tell us not to eat something

when we consume things that are bitter like Coffee or Alcohol we assume there is some price to pay for whatever it is we get out of them

but nobody consumes Canola oil because they enjoy it in the same way people enjoy Alcohol, Coffee or Mustard

people consume Canola because they watched a YouTube video where some ass clown with "Dr." in his title told them that it's "super healthy"

i hate to break it to you Mike but there are millions of videos on YouTube of charlatans promoting everything imaginable as a remedy for every possible ailment - my 98 year old grandma used to watch all those videos before she died

if Gil told you to drink Diesel Exhaust Fluid instead of milk and showed you a few meta-analysis studies i bet you would do it because you are that open minded that you don't fall for common sense arguments from nostr:npub1nshq4pcyzdmnewg4h8yu6tsuh5t72whzkz5x4wj7t0c0cy7yyrfqq2cgnl who argues voodoo viewpoints about "evolution" and makes unscientific arguments like "people haven't historically consumed diesel exhaust fluid"

I dont remember where I read a historical overview... Malone? The Forgotten Side of Medicine? But:

The issue is not seed oil == bad.

Around the first half of XX century, new industrial and chemical processes allowed the extraction of seed oils in industrial scale, from some plant species which were not used for this purpose before, at least not in industrial scale.

New tech also allowed to extract MORE oil from the same seeds which were used before. sunflower, canola, etc. And this oil extracted under higher mechanical pressure and aided by chemical processes is a different oil.

So, they created new oils, which were not present in tradictional cuisine.

AND, dosing. There is too much seed oil in almost all hiperprocessed foods.