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Replying to Avatar Colby Serpa

Putting one or two relays in a note that’s stored on a ton of other relays is nice for discovery (this is the gossip model), but it’s imperfect…

It’d really be wonderful if you could put your list of relays on-chain, so everyone could easily lookup what relays your notes are currently on.

It wouldn’t be as expensive as paying a transaction fee for every new post, since it’d just be a fee each time you update your relay list… but block space is still the limiting bottleneck.

Nevertheless, it’s either blocks or a DHT for finding what relays belong to a given npub. But DHTs have their own set of trade-offs…

What I’d really like… and am putting off until GitNestr is ready… is a way for a relay to signify all the users/npubs it hosts data for & compact that into a ZKP that the relay puts on-chain.

This way anyone could scroll through these ZKPs on-chain to see if a given npub’s posts are stored on any of those relays — it offsets the transaction fees to the relays.

Trade-offs everywhere, but I know we’ll find new ways… the more options the better.

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Colby Serpa 1y ago

All of these methods have something in common — they flip the discovery model on its head, similar to gossip:

Read posts from the relays other users write to, instead of only reading from the list of relays you write to. 👀

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