So I’m not allowed to write a story on Cointelegraph about Nostr (Damus) users going 5x in one month or nearly reaching 500k daily users.

“let’s not have the same argument every time there’s a non-profit going on. My stance is clear: Them not making money today doesn’t mean they won’t make tomorrow.”

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Say you will include that point in the article, and that currently there is no "they", but it is possible that Damus and Amethyst will try to charge.

The novel thing here is not the app developers, it's the underlying platform.

Thanks. I’ve tried adding that.

Yeah they keep coming back to the point that Damus is a product and me publishing a pro Damus article is promotional. I’m like it’s a protocol; it’s similar to an article celebrating btc hitting 25k.

I’m trying a different angle

I think if they're hung up on that, maybe you could promote the plethora of the clients that have sprouted up over the past few months to make it seems less promotional to a specific client, or just talk about the user #s, how LN is being integrated & some of the features of the protocol without naming any of the clients.

Nice. Yeah I’m pitching other angles

Lemme know if you need any tips/ideas 🤙

Damus is the product. Might want to incorporate more clients into your article like Iris and nostrgram to not seem promotional or biased.

I don't understand why the story can't be about the users & how Bitcoin is being integrated? Clearly seems newsworthy to me...

Exactly. Plus cointelegraph is meant to be all about decentralisation

Is it? Seems to me whomever is in charge of whether or not your story gets posted, totally missed the plot...

Who cares if they (who are they to start with?) want to charge their users some sats? I believe many users are already zapping devs anyway.

This is how the news works 😢 you source stories and pitch them to editors then discuss 🤷‍♂️

Resignation letter :)

I see it like this: think of various internet protocols - TCP, POP3, IMAP, SMTP, HTTP, whatever. Are the profit-making in their own right? No. Does that mean that people haven't built profitable businesses on top of them? Of course not!

Nostr will inevitably create an ecosystem of client programmes, just as we have a variety of web browsers and email clients. If the features are good (e.g. good search, adaptive algorithms) people will pay for them.

Moreover, the phenomenon of true micropayments changes incentives and massively reduces friction in various ways. Quite what this means is still slightly unclear, but we can see from micropayments in other ecosystems (e.g. M-Pesa in Kenya) that it was often transformational in ways which were not entirely expected.

Interesting reply, thanks. Yeah it’s that line that I am probably butchering: “who knew that the invention of mobile data would disrupt the taxi industry?”

What's wrong with making money? Email providers make money off email...

The same coin telegraph that published this drivel?

"Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region of China, allowing it to have its own laws and governance. The former British colony was transferred back to China in 1997 following a guarantee from Beijing there would be no Chinese interference with the region’s economic and political systems for 50 years, known as the “one country, two systems” principle."

The hundreds of thousands of hkers who have fled, the uprising, the violence unleashed on hkers by triads and ccp thugs, the imprisonment of thousands of peaceful pro-democracy legislators and community members, the blatant changing of laws in HK, the National Security Law, the stationing of national security police from ccp into hk etc. All forgotten now? ccp have broken all promises, have broken all guarantees and now no one cares because western media and wall street institutions have made a deal with ccp.

Bitcoiners fight for freedom and shouldn't be hood-winked by this pr charade.

With a letter of resignation and an application to Bitcoin magazine.

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@preston came swinging today

Savage

Hahahahahha 👏

I support BM and admire their contribution to bitcoin. Their team are great and I have actually written for the platform albeit under a nym.

That said, I think there’s still value in having a maxi at cointelegraph - the second most widely read cRypTo publication.

For context, coindesk gets 5.2 million unique monthly visitors, cointelegraph 4.4 million and bitcoin magazine 462k. (Nov - dec 2023, stats from similarweb.com).

I get flak from both shitcoin and bitcoin communities for being maxi at a crypto company (which is fair enough, btw), but i still see my humble contribution to bitcoin as worthwhile.

Ultimately, I have to convince myself that my efforts at CT (such as pitching pro bitcoin articles like this) have an impact on the broader btc movement and that hopefully they’re reaching precoiners 🍊 💊

Your contribution is very worthwhile! But you have to ask yourself: Does this job (at CT) really fulfull you? I imagine it must be a pain in the ass to discuss these topics with your boss all the time... fuck them, you deserve better :D

Appreciate the thought. Thank you. Yeah I do feel like I’m banging my head against the wall sometimes. And other times I get what I consider to be really useful maxi bitcoin content onto the platform and I’m proud 🥲

Nothing’s perfect 🤷‍♂️

Hahahahahha 👏

I support BM and admire their contribution to bitcoin. Their team are great and I have actually written for the platform albeit under a nym.

That said, I think there’s still value in having a maxi at cointelegraph - the second most widely read cRypTo publication.

For context, coindesk gets 5.2 million unique monthly visitors, cointelegraph 4.4 million and bitcoin magazine 462k. (Nov - dec 2023, stats from similarweb.com).

I get flak from both shitcoin and bitcoin communities for being maxi at a crypto company (which is fair enough, btw), but i still see my humble contribution to bitcoin as worthwhile.

Ultimately, I have to convince myself that my efforts at CT (such as pitching pro bitcoin articles like this) have an impact on the broader btc movement and that hopefully they’re reaching precoiners 🍊 💊

Sorry about posting twice. I’m on Damus on a trajn. No idea how to delete

Wow, that’s a short-sighted view. So, according to your editors, something has to have an instantly profitable business model in order to be deemed newsworthy? These are the kinds of people who would have missed bitcoin before Lazslo bought the pizzas. They don’t deserve you.

Nostr is Lightning pilling users.

Like SilkRoad orange billing bitcoiners.

Keep the CoinTelegraph receipt

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no... they don't want to do free advertisement

Tell them to eat a dick and write it anyway. If they won't publish, chunk the deuces and take your skills elsewhere.

If there was a shitcoin involved they'd be all over it.

‘Nostr is a humans rights tool like bitcoin.’

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It’s like watergate: the coverup is the real story.

Write and publish your article elsewhere. Like here. And get zapped for being independent.

Why not focus on all the potential apps being built on NOSTR? That shifts the focus to the protocol layer and its potential.

👀 Ty Kent. Can you link me to some examples?

I don't have the receipts, but I've seen folks talking about building Reddit, Youtube, Instagram competing apps. There's also talk about specific paid relay systems that can make paywalled-esque communities. The potential of the protocol itself leaves itself to blue water development.

“The story is about Nostr, an open protocol like Bitcoin or the internet. I’m allowed to write about Bitcoin and the internet, aren’t I?

I’m merely mentioning Damus to provide specific data our readers will find interesting, ultimately driving more views to your shitcoin clickbait articles as well, sir.”

Yep, fair. The app / product part is still the issue and I couldn’t get the story approved.

I’ll find other nostrelated things to write about. Low time preference etc 🫡

This guy got his Nostr story in, was able to mention Damus & then incorrectly stated that it has an Android app 🤣