The idea of Tokenizing Fine Wine is clever. But it only makes sense in a world distorted by fiat money.

Platforms like Bacchus and VinoVest let people buy fractional shares of rare bottles as an alternative investment. The demand for this product is coming from people looking for new ways to protect or grow their wealth as the value of fiat erodes. This is the same force driving crypto speculation, meme stocks, the explosion of sports betting and the rise of the S&P 500. When saving doesn’t work, you're forced further out on the risk curve.

Vintage wine is a great candidate for financialization. It is more scarce than Bitcoin. Once a vintage is gone, it’s gone and unlike bitcoin, its consumable. The best bottles can increase in value for decades. But ultimately, wine is not forever. It peaks, then fades and the fleeting goal of collectors is to time the peak...by drinking it. The highest purpose of wine is to be opened and enjoyed. That purpose disappears when a bottle becomes a line item in your brokerage app.

Tokenizing wine solves problems that only exist in the fiat world. It is a way to turn enjoyment into speculation, but it kills wine's fundamental value prop. YOU DON'T GET TO TASTE YOUR FRACTION. No one is going to mail you a sip of wine. You just have to hope someone else wants it more later. That logic treats wine less like culture and more like collateral.

In a world where money works, where saving in Bitcoin preserves your time and energy, you don’t need to chase exposure to an obscure asset class that you probably don't understand.. You don’t need a token for everything. These platforms aren’t bad ideas. They are just ideas for a broken system.

Fix the money, fix the incentives.

Make Wine Wine Again.

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Bitcoin fixed this

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Fiat bro betting

Turns wine into a gamble

Jesus disapproves

#haiku

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I’ve considered attaching some bitcoin to each bottle of wine sold. The theory would be that in time, the wine is paid for by the Bitcoin. Not only will the wine improve with time, so will the Bitcoin.

I've also noodled on this as a cool collectors thing, but the methods of doing so are fraught with trust me bro.

It would sell, but ultimately only Bitcoiners are buying it and they'd be better off just buying Bitcoin as the investment vehicle.

Make good wine.

Make cool labels.

That's all you need (IMO)

Agreed. Cool idea but logistically I couldn’t get to a point where it made sense.

With you on this one Ben

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Followed. Nice note but I think I'm just sad to learn this is happening. You're dead right about people being pushed further out on the risk curve. Shit, most people don't even know what the risk curve is!

Vinovest was founded in 2019, but the tokenization is much newer. Happy people have more freedom/options, but wish they would see their best option.

Its all just a search for scarcity

Agreed, tokenizing the monetary premium doesn't make sense

One of the few places it *does* make sense is illiquid community stewarded assets, like land used for large agriculture operations where there is a village of families living there that want the land to be managed and used in a way that is to their best interest but want to be able to float value between families as they come and go or need to scale up or down in holdings among each other

So places where fractional holders can actually use their share

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And where a share is some sort membership but in something that is basically permanently illiquid yet community held value to make it available to the tribe. Like a methodology of "stewarding the value of the commons" then people can vote with their feet by exiting if the trustees aren't making them happy. It makes community be non binary success or failure of all being happy or it ends

Just roll with me here

It's Communism working great in smaller groups, when you can opt out when when fully surrounded by capitalism

So not really communism, but kinda

Lol. My dad used to always says "this family ain't a democracy!" And would say basically this.

"Communalism" only works well in very small dunbar levels where deep relationships and commitment to each other is already in place. Like the early church in the book of Acts giving their land and wealth to the church for the care of the local poor and families, breaking bread together, and "having everything in common"

Terrible for a city or state level government structure though. Even in the early church people died for lying and behaving dishonorably towards that level of relational intimacy / commitment (just as my dad would have beaten my ass if I didn't put my mom first in food or comfort / well being within our family unit)

Well said. 🤌

Sounds just like how large capitalist corporations organize their workers.... hehe.

We love freedom and "democracy" so much.

Just not in the workplace 🙈🙉🙊

Let that sink in for a moment...

Lol. Yeah, big corporations is definitely not a place it works. You have to have a pretty deep level of shared identity ("she is your mother and your job as my son is to protect and honor her" .. that doesn't work for a job.) and shared purposes / goals that are mutually understood / committed to

That's exactly what they do in the work place.

All roles. Nobody has a say.

Pure communism in capitalist america.

There's a reason I'm building my own tribe and network of businesses so I don't have to be a part of that world ever again

likewise! I just had to point out the irony!

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