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All these migrant "domestic terrorists", a euphemism for normalizing removal of constitutional protection, were let in by the Feds. Now, is giving the same faceless people (the Feds) who let them in, the power to get them out, logical?

Where else in the world currently are there people considered ineligible for rights that other people are "allowed" to have? Are rights negotiable? Not talking about for criminals of course.

The Beave 6d ago

Ok. Let's play the "not all" game.

Are there not domestic terrorists? Are their not foreign terrorists? If so, what should be done with them?

What should be done with people (from anywhere) who are actively defrauding literal billions from other people?

I've already proposed the simplest, least violent method of cutting off most of the root of the worst of this. The only other practical option is literally gangs of thugs to root out the other gang of thugs, unless the people of Minneapolis and the state take it on themselves to do this, but then, guess what, they would then be branded as vigilantes locked up or killed by the same gubment thugs.

What, pray tell, is your solution?

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Hazey 6d ago

Obviously, there are terrorists. Almost every terrorist act, when you look beyond the headlines, the story almost never adds up. I don't know why people can't apply the most basic metric of who benefits?

What terrorists are you trying to root out anyways? I won't beat around the bush and say it: most (all?) terrorism has state origins. Definitions of insanity should include asking those creating a problem to be the ones to fix it.

I understand that "the state" is a big opponent. However, its power comes solely from the peoples' *desire* (not coercion) to give it power, which is what you happen to be doing looking for solutions to things that not everyone (like me) agrees are problems.

The Beave 6d ago

Right.

Correct.

I do. I know who benefits. I don't think you do. And there in lies the rub.

Mostly muslim extremists, leftist delusional drug-addled wannabe assasins, and the occasional explicit "splinter cell" type.

No. But also yes, if you consider the Caliphate to be the muslim "state" as such, then yes. All terrorist actions are started by the state.

I don't expect the ones creating problems to solve them without presenting another problem right after. (See covid and them the BLM riots, etc.)

Yes! You are correct. People cede power to "the state." I very much agree. The abdication of personal responsibility always leads to disaster. Amplified several billionfold when it is happening all over the world.

My solution for this particular issue is super simple, but it won't be done. These people (all foreign people who are committing or planning to commit theft, rape, and murder) should go back home and culturally enrich their own country. Please and thank you. Then we might have a chance of not collapsing so badly like every other empire in history. (We are overdue, in historical terms.)