What political lines? Everything is political if you want it to be. That has nothing to do with what I'm saying. Experts are the problem. Results are what matter. Experts dislike results that disagree with their books. Books are only as good as the words written in them. This reverence for some sort of authoritative source of knowledge doesn't impress me. What is your thesis? Why doesn't it hold up to anything I said without straw manning? That's what you should be questioning. Not, "where did you get your information." That should be a red flag that what you know might not be what you know it might just be what you've been sold.

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I'm not getting the impression that you are interested in a real conversation here. Let me know if I'm wrong.

I'm curious where you got your info as I have some theories as to where these ideas, your talking points, tend to come from and I'm trying to gather a new data point.

Also asking what you have read gives me an idea of what theories you support. What perspective you have on these issues.

I'm happy to share with you my theories and thoughts if you're interested, again this is a topic that I'm rather into.

It's super antagonistic and egocentric to start talking to someone as if they haven't given you everything they meant while you strawman what you think they mean and accuse them of things. And after all that say something trite like "I'm not sure you are even interested in real conversation". Umm. okay. I pretty much explained my position and when I say no it's not zero sum you just repeat yourself instead of trying to understand how it's not. How am I not being super patient with you while you act condescending? How is that not being conversational? You can't be serious. Your problem isn't comparison. Your problem is you think you are better than people who might have a different perspective than you and you hide behind your insecurities with an air of superiority.

What happens when you come across someone with no named theories? Or what happens when you come across a scammer that just makes up named theories and writes books about them? You are trying to pigeon hole me. That's the data point you are interested in. That why I refuse to name drop. I list one unapproved name and you will discredit. You already tried to say I was making this political and I have no idea why. We should be able to talk about ideas on their own. Where they came from doesn't matter to me, their merit does.