They’re more expensive up front, but that definitely is valid with how tough they are. But also their power draw is always going to be a bit higher per TH. If Whatsminers and Antminers were the same price by $/TH, I’d get a Whatsminer all day though. But they’re just overall a bit more expensive, but last a lot longer.

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That's good info 🙏 iv been looking at the M30S++ & the S19J Pro, both 100TH/s both similar in price on the site iv been looking at. Assumed Bitmain was the way but now you've got me thinking

M30S++ was my favorite for a while, and power consumption is not tooooo entirely different (about 400-500W more depending on the j Pro you’re looking at) but if you can find a cheap enough up front price for an M30S++ and that extra power isn’t too much for you, I’d take that offer.