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This is assuming the luddites (and I usually think they will also be socialist as well to resist resource centralization toward the winners of AI) are a minority, not the voting majority, right?

Mike Brock 2y ago

I wouldn't use the term "socialist", since that involves implications for economic production modes. But I think the vast majority of people have some degree of innate collectivist impulse. I think libertarians and anarchists are incorrect in believing the default human impulse is more closer to egoism.

The mere existence of populist movements, and their tendency to rise, both in democratic and non-democratic contexts, would appear to represent a significant empirical challenge to any assumption to the contrary.

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ish4k 2y ago

I think both are quite reconcilable, actually, egoistic impulse and collective impulse, as even collective feelings can manifest themselves in different ways in individuals. crowds are capable of committing atrocities that the individual alone would not be capable of. it's the difference between the quantum leap that takes place in a football stadium and the one that takes place between the four walls of a room on a shrooms trip. furthermore, I think it’s really far from being socialist indeed. It seems that socialism has already been co-opted by those in power, see Lenin's bust in Klaus Schwab's office, while today's populist masses are leaning more to the right, or rather, to an organic and non-partisan self-organization.