but I could be stacking sats with that 40 seconds though. so...haha maybe I'll try to figure that out tonight. I know there is a command to allow a device on a tailnet to access local devices. I just haven't used it. my next question is what up or dns name can I use to access the non-tailnet devices? can I just access it using the IP on my local network?

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Not sure on the first question, but I do know on your own local network, its the same as always (mystart9.local)

If you didn't want to run tailscale right on start9, you could use an old firestifk or apple TV and setup as a subnet router (I have not done this yet). I saw it was the same, super easy setup to do this.

I'll give a shot tonight and will report back.