you got my simp on
similar to Steve Jobs throwing the cell phone in a glass of water and watching the bubbles come out to prove "you can make it smaller" to the ACtual engineer Wozniak.
Elon Musk took the lidar/radar out of the car and forced his company to figure out Vision only.
I used to test drive Uber Self driving cars with LIDAR. It was cool that they could see every raindrop and snow flake, but it would have been cooler if it could just stay in the lane!