Some people involved are not mistaken, they are willful liars to benefit themselves.

You have not linked to any reproducible experiments, only a place to give them my money for classes.

There are an infinite number of things I could be learning and doing but I have limited resources to learn them. "I validate myself to myself that a thing every subject matter expert agrees is wrong is actually true" is low enough probability in my book that I'm not putting my limited resources towards it.

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I have no interest in parroting what “every subject matter expert agrees on”. We have google and idiots for that. I’ve seen so many times where they are wrong I can’t trust them. On top of that where is the fun in just repeating them? All the really interesting stuff is on the fringe. I won’t bother you further as it’s not my intention to convince anyone, merely to bring interesting and valuable information to those willing to learn. Hopefully you find fulfillment in whatever you seek to learn.

I don't understand what value this brings to your life. What are you better able to do? What quality of life improvement do you get? You point to a page that says you learn something but you don't say what and they don't either. You both also don't say how that information is useful.

I never said I'm here to parrot experts, I agree that mistakes are often made even by experts. In those cases I always see controversy and or a political motivation for choosing a specific belief. Experts look at the thing and say maybe we need to look closer at this. I don't see that here.

I want to be clear, I'm not just being dismissive. I'm an expert here with my test equipment saying show me. I'm willing to be the expert who starts the controversy by telling other experts I know we need to look closer we missed something.

I'm not making any attempt to silence you or them. I'm offering my knowledge side by side so that people who don't know about either position can see both. A handy side by side chart of how we both thought about the subject.

You do seem more interested than most and far less antagonistic than many I’ve come across. I’m hesitant to say too much for a number of reasons. First many dismiss things too far outside their world view out of hand. Second I tend to be more free in discussing sensitive topics than most are comfortable about and am trying to be more discerning.

I’ll be honest and explicit and probably chase you off. There is the physical plane, etheric, astral, exc… The physical body would be a corpse without the etheric to enliven it. With the vibrational Radesthesia I use sense organs for perception in those higher planes and see how things effect me. The most common practice I personally use it for at this time is to directly perceive if my food, drink, supplements, exc are beneficial to me at the time of taking them. Biogeometry uses some of the same tools and organs of perception. It can be used in architecture to create energetic qualities that positively benefit people or when directed at harmful things like the cell tower in Switzerland to transmute the toxic qualities into beneficial ones.

So it’s not about mystical faraday cage to block all the RF but can change some of the qualities there of. It was created by an Egyptian architect in a lineage of scientific approach to things beyond just the physical plane.

Also the Ebner effect should be easy for you to reproduce for little money and maybe with equipment or materials you already have or would use. Totally done in a standard lab (chemical agriculture lab that would have lost more by its adoption than its suppression) where simple static electricity exposure to organisms (plants and later animals) showed altered gene expression in a positive manner. Great way to demonstrate that it does have an effect without the moral consequences of harming living organisms.

I'm willing to share. I just taught a free lesson on musical instrument design and antenna theory in this thread. Everyone I know who is a real expert on something is desperate for an opportunity to explain their passion to anyone who will listen. This secret aspect is a red flag in my book.

Well let me explain why the secret. The greeks with their Platonic solids held back the truncated icosahedron from public knowledge. They knew it’s destructive potential and didn’t want it getting out. That’s the shape that allowed the first successful atomic bomb. Lots of things have been hidden from the masses for similar reasons. The fact you can take an online course to learn this stuff is a loosening of that knowledge because the time has come for it to be revealed. I’m just trying to retain the discernment about what to reveal so that when I come across information that should not be shared or not shared with someone specific I can do so.

Nearly everything I’ve learned in that field is available online for free. The classes is for the compiling of information from diverse sources in a way comprehensible and from people who haven’t distorted it. I also came to this from seeking the origin of biodynamic farming and found that source available free on YouTube. It’s not meant to be a hidden order with oaths of secrecy. That would raise red flags for me too. I’ve also come across a lot of distorted teachings and sketchy people promising power. So I get the hesitation.

https://www.amazon.com/BioGeometry-Signatures-Harmonizing-Exchange-Environment/dp/1537783882/ref=pd_aw_sim_hxwPO1_sspa_mw_detail_m_sccl_1/146-3147122-0470239?pd_rd_w=hAiwM&content-id=amzn1.sym.a6277cd9-4842-40f8-9eaa-e10fdc3d0efc&pf_rd_p=a6277cd9-4842-40f8-9eaa-e10fdc3d0efc&pf_rd_r=AMPC70V7PMFAQSB2743D&pd_rd_wg=MfRQe&pd_rd_r=d58afe4b-0a62-4ff0-86ab-ca0893f41599&pd_rd_i=1537783882&psc=1 I bought this book a while back and it has much of the information if you want to try a cheaper route in. Also free YouTube videos explaining the general principles from him (Dr. Ibrahim Karim) or Robert Gilbert who I’ve primarily been learning from.

Soccer is a pretty big waste of time but I can't see how keeping the shape of the ball a secret would stop them. They already do play with balls cut out of other patterns sometimes.

There were lots of other shapes in the atomic bomb, are the others evil by association too? The first runaway nuclear reaction was inside a cube, why weren't cubes kept a secret?

Personally I'm planning to keep drinking water even though it is a critical component in every nuclear reactor design.

I could have chosen some other example. Point is the is sometimes good reason to keep things from people not ready to handle the information. I’m sure that concept is not beyond you.

I think the only limit should be if they are willing to do the work to learn. "Secret" knowledge is good for tricking people into thinking you've got something special without needing to prove it to them.

I'm not offering secrets. You will need to learn things sequentially building one on the other. It is all there but you might not get it without the prerequisite. No different than needing addition and subtraction to do algebra.

Yes people use the allure of the forbidden to ensnare others. I’m not talking about calling something forbidden for that purpose. I’m talking about not teaching a lunatic how to build a bomb simply because you know how and they have money. Some things have been hidden because the average person would miss-use them. There is a rule in one such discipline that for every step forward in gaining this knowledge you need to take three steps towards moral perfection.

How to build bombs with common unsuspicious parts is already widely publicly available information. The truth is that the dedication to learning builds character. Most people are far less evil than you think or too stupid and lazy to do 1 internet search. Either way, same effect of safety.

Take martial arts for example. The knowledge is there for anyone to find out which ones work and just go practice. The world around us shows that the people picking bar fights couldn't be bothered. The people who could be bothered don't go around picking fights.