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The Bible and the Flat Earth: A Closer Look

There is strong evidence in the Bible that suggests the Earth is flat, enclosed by a firmament, and surrounded by water. In fact, this concept is introduced right on the very first page of the Bible — and echoed throughout its verses.

Genesis 1:2

"And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters."

My Interpretation:

Before God created the world, there was no “empty space” like modern science claims. Instead, there was only water — likely a massive ocean or endless pool. God's “workshop” was not a void but was a vast body of water.

Genesis 1:6-8

"And God said, 'Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.' And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament."

My Interpretation:

This tells us that everything was water — above, below, all around. God separated the waters by creating a space, which He called “sky.” But for the waters above not to fall, He built the firmament — a solid dome structure that covers the land, sealing us inside. It’s like a cosmic snow globe, or a protective dome enclosing Earth within a giant pool of water.

Genesis 1:14-16

"And God said, 'Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night…' God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night."

My Interpretation:

The sun and moon are not massive physical bodies millions of miles away. They are simply lights placed in the sky — within the space between Earth and the firmament. They’re not objects you can land on. This is why I believe the moon landings were fake — the moon isn’t a place, it’s a light source.

Genesis 1:16-17

"He made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth."

My Interpretation:

The stars aren’t scattered through infinite space — they’re embedded in the firmament itself. Think of it like high-tech, unbreakable glass with decorative lights embedded inside. The stars and planets are just visual features to beautify the night sky. You can’t travel to them; they’re not destinations, they’re part of the dome.

So What About Space?

I don’t think “space” exists the way we’re told. Outside the firmament is more water — and possibly, beyond that, is the world of God.

Could we drill through the firmament, get into a submarine, and try to reach God’s realm? Technically, maybe. But God made the firmament unbreakable. I don’t think God wants us leaving. God gave us everything we need inside this enclosed world.

Why Does Science Say Otherwise?

Science, in my view, hides the existence of a Creator. They claim we came from a random explosion and live on a spinning ball surrounded by endless emptiness.

Why? Maybe they’ve been secretly trying to break through the firmament and don’t want the public — especially religious people — to catch on. If the firmament is real, then God is real. And that would change everything.

My Thoughts

I’m not a religious person. But I can’t ignore that the Bible — written long before modern science existed — describes a flat, enclosed Earth. Back then, everyone believed it was flat. The globe model came much later, and it's full of contradictions.

Once you start looking into the flat Earth theory, it starts to make sense. A lot more sense than the spinning-ball-in-space theory we’re fed from birth.

There is many other theories like crater earth, hallow earth. I'm open to all of them but flat earth with close ties to flat earth makes the most sense and the least sense is globe earth.

Here is a few pictures of what our world most likely looks like

https://mar101xy.com/uploader/images/2025/06/16/flat-earth-model.webp

https://mar101xy.com/uploader/images/2025/05/14/flat-earth-glass-dome.webp

https://mar101xy.com/uploader/images/2025/06/16/flat-earth-waters-above.webp

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We have no way to know if there is a dome or firmament, but air pressure does require a container and we have air pressure here and an air gradient (caused by the motion of the earth).

I do think the earth is clearly not flat though, it's all types of terrain, high, low etc.

The earth has a level orientation though because of its upward motion.

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There are two ways to physically confirm the existence of the firmament:

1. Fly Straight Up:

You could fly a drone or small aircraft straight up until it reaches the firmament. If you get high enough, you could reach out and physically touch it — assuming you’re allowed to go that far.

2. Travel to the Edge:

Take a boat toward the outer edge of our world. Look at picture #3 and #4 — the closest countries to the edge are Australia and Argentina. From there, you’d need to sail toward the white area, which is ice and snow. Once you reach the ice wall, you can travel along it toward the outer edge until you reach the firmament. The distance from the ice wall to the firmament is estimated to be about 10 km (7 miles).

It’s extremely cold, and there are no roads or gas stations out there, so you’ll need a vehicle with a large fuel tank — or a private plane, but most can only fly about 9,000 miles. Either way, it’s expensive and you’ll need permission, which most people never get.

People have tried. Some sent drones with cameras, but that’s considered illegal and they’re often intercepted. Authorities don’t want people getting too close.

Also, I think you're misunderstanding what I meant by "flat." When I say the Earth is flat, I mean it rests on a flat surface — not that the terrain itself is flat. There are still mountains, valleys, and all kinds of landscapes inside the dome. The earlier pictures only showed the layout of the continents, not the terrain.

Here’s a better example showing the actual terrain:

I agree, but none of it has been tested or confirmed. Therefore we don't know for 100% if there is a dome, an ice wall or if the earth is a flat surface.

No one is allowed to travel to the "edges" as you say and we don't know what's going on in the sky or how the luminaries work.

We do know that the earth is moving upwards causing the upward vector that some call gravity. This causes the water to be level and gives people weight and orientation. This we can test ourselves easily.