I suppose my point was that if someone is peddling child porn, censorship shoulybe at the relay level

With hate speech and racism, I think you can leave it to the individual

So, as you've said, it's a matter of degrees of freedom

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child porn yuck.

but even 'normal' porn, I think what is required is not censorship. what we need is law to force all porn to a top level domain of .porn and for children's devices to not be able to access that top level domain.