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I think beliefs take us to a known place. what if we question all the beliefs? what if we let them all go once we perceive them? not only the ones that seem negative, but also the ones that seem positive. I don't know if we are talking about the same thing, but beliefs, the way I see, can be an attempt to scape from the infinite possibilities of being, living, experiencing things.

it's hard for me to send you this, because somehow I believe that I can't bring my view to someone who seems to have experienced a lot of similar things to what I've been experiencing, but not exactly this time. also the belief that I only can say right things or I shouldn't say anything. and these are only samples. but letting them appear and go is allowing me to open myself up for sending you and just observing what comes next.

thank you for that

Sedj 1y ago

Please keep questioning all the beliefs!

If you believe something strongly, with conviction, be prepared to question it harder! Reject it, and then try to arrive at it again in some other way. I've rejected reality many times. I reject plenty of science, especially materialist science, as just not the full story. Right now I'm trying to reject our concept of time, as I'm pretty sure it is wrong, or at least incomplete.

You can say whatever you wish, and I also reject right and wrong. Yes, I reject morality.

If beliefs take us to a known place, can disbelief take us to an unknown place? I try to embrace the unknown. What I lack in creativity I make up in curiosity.

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pollyanna 1y ago

that's it. I mostly question my own thoughts and this conversation helped me see that I was holding something. I was afraid of expressing my thoughts because "I must question and be open" and everything I say seems closed. but it is true that all I say is closed if I'm not willing to be transformed by the conversation, if I'm afraid of losing all my beliefs haha so it brought me to experience letting go these beliefs of not believing as a way to experience.

I'm sorry, I'll send that even thinking it is confusing, but this really touched me.

Sedj 1y ago

I get that. I also tend to frame things out as fully considered ideas, which may appear closed. The truth is I'm willing to reconsider anything, should new information or thought or emotion be brought to light.

The hardest things to reconsider are not the things we embrace, but the things we have already dismissed. For example, I have completely dismissed revealed religion. It would extremely hard for me to reconsider and be open to Jesus as my true Savior and the only way to Heaven. There is so many different things in that last sentence that I have dismissed as not just false, but ridiculous and impossible.

However, even these things that we dismiss are still possible. The earth could somehow be flat. Reptile aliens could be in control of our world governments.

If you get rid of all your beliefs, you are still left with your emotion - how you feel about everything, regardless of what you think. Experiencing the emotion is more important and significant anyway.

pollyanna 1y ago

I've been researching, and specially observing feelings and emotions and their connections with the sensations in the body for about 10 years. I think since I was a kid I used to pay a lot of attention to other people's feelings. later I started to pay attention to my own feelings and emotions, specially the ones I try to hide from myself. so when you say that about emotions I completely agree.

pollyanna 1y ago

I'd love to hear more about the concept of time you're thinking about. I also like to think about it.

Sedj 1y ago

That's just it. I don't know what it is, I just have this gut feeling that how we regard time is not at all accurate.

There's time as measured by the rotation of the earth, and its orbit around the sun.

But that wasn't good enough, so there's some fancy science definitions that concern measurements of light wavelengths or something (learned it about 35 years ago.)

I don't think either of these concepts really gets at how time works.

Consider in 3-D space, where objects have width, height, and depth, a distance between two locations is said to be based on the time it takes to travel from one point to the other. Distance = Rate x Time.

But rate (speed) is expressed as distance / time, so the time cancels out, leave distance = distance, so kind of silly.

But if matter and 3D isn't actually reality, and reality is wave/energy/field based, are there definitive locations with distance between them? Does this even still make sense?

Does time work sequentially, where a cause always precedes an effect, or could they happen all at once, or possibly reversed?

I'm currently trying to learn about the Hindu / Vedic concepts of time, because my early understanding was that they are pretty different.

I can talk for hours about time theories and such, but again, I don't know how valid most of them are.

I think this much is true - whatever I am doing in this moment is the most important thing to me that I could be doing, and I would rather be doing it than any other option I might have.

And right now, I am replying to you.