REEEEE This is centralization! REEEEE
*deep breath*
Now that I have that out of my system, I wonder if a self-sovereign way to do this would be a self-hostable “relay-relay”; a relay that your clients connect to that pulls from your chosen relays for them. If my understanding of WOT is correct it could maybe be built on top of that?…
I think that self-hosted relays basically do this... So you would just connect to the one relay from your device, and that relay is pulling notes from all the others.
I guess this is kind of creating an on-phone version of that? Is that really what we're getting at here, a relay running on "localhost" that all of the apps would connect to?
It would be easier for normies to switch too…but are most normies running multiple Nostr apps on their phones? Why not a Docker image / Start9/Umbrel/etc app?
If you consider that there’s a point where it becomes unreasonable to keep cramming features into a single app from both UX and development perspectives, and also that nostr is flexible enough to be the engine of multiple platforms, then it shouldn’t be unreasonable to think everyone would end up having more than one “nostr” app.
Even some simple case of having one app for notes and another for chats would be enough to match that criteria.
As for self hosting a server, or even worse, needing to rely on somebody else to do that for you, doesn’t seem like a barrier most people would be willing to climb.
I personally think that some sort of automated arrangement of micropayments could suffice to incentivize bringing up more relays and funding “anonymous” ops, without bringing too much cognitive load onto end users.
See nostr:npub1h0uj825jgcr9lzxyp37ehasuenq070707pj63je07n8mkcsg3u0qnsrwx8 stamps for example.
Also good point.
I see a future where we’ll have normie solutions, power user solutions, and nerd solutions. And we’ll all fight about which is best 😅
Yeah I doubt that most people are running two separate clients. But because of the nature of Nostr with it's multiple connections, it's a technical architecture question that should probably be resolved..
What do you mean? Almost everybody is running more than 1 client.
Power users and us nerds definitely are, but I doubt grandma is.
I don't think everyone on Nostr today is a power user and many people do have more than one client app installed. On iOS almost everybody has Primal and Damus. On Android, almost everybody has Amethyst and Primal.
That is on top of the 0xChat, KeyChat, Fountain, Nostur, Coracle, Jumble, Habla.news, Yakihonne.
These apps don't do the same thing people will have more than 10 apps in every phone for sure.
Eu diria no mínimo 3
More than 1 client per device? I doubt it... I run #amethyst on mobile and #coracle on desktop
There's a large amount of people that only use primal.
I think after it got attention from people using it's inbuilt wallet to buy goyslop at shakes and steaks when they started accepting Bitcoin
I have been telling every normie I come across to use wavlake as an ad free Spotify alternative.
