Wow! Ledger seems to hijacking their hardware wallets with a backdoor to seed phrases. Even if you don't not use their recovery service, the backdoor is still their - means you have to trust Ledger!

https://beincrypto.com/ledger-recover-cloud-seed-phrase-feature/

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Ledger.com/recover answers a few questions but sketchy AF

I know trezor isn't perfect, but this was precisely the situation I was anticipating when I got one