Communi-keys communities avoid gift wraps yes? Is it any easier working with things on that side?

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Yes, both communikeys and NIP-29 groups are easier to work with. But NIP-17 DMs use gift wraps, and the ecash wallet uses NIP-44 encryption. There's a bunch of data I need to store client side for incremental sync and to avoid having lots of encrypt/decrypt ops.

The browser has key-value storage and indexed storage and I use both, but even with proper indexes and query optimizations you hit a perf wall on web once you store thousands of records. There's also the issue that durability is not guaranteed and DB might get pruned once you hit certain quotas.

Yikes I feel for you, sounds like trying to fit everything in a carry-on bag and the airline keeps changing policy.

What about just getting rid of NIP17 DMs?

yeah, perhaps it makes sense to have a separate app that just implements NIP-17 DMs like Coop does for desktop and focus Chachi on NIP-29 groups :nostopus_thinking:

Bit random but do you know of any clients using NIP44 DMs? As in NIP4 with upgraded encryption but no gift wrap?

i didn't know that was a thing :nostopus_thinking: don't know of any clients that do this, it's either NIP-04 (majority) or NIP-17 afaik. there's also nostr:npub1g53mukxnjkcmr94fhryzkqutdz2ukq4ks0gvy5af25rgmwsl4ngq43drvk 's double ratchet DM spec https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/1813