Osh wasnt forced to sell to the dude. The guy needs permission to resell something? What are you talking about?
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Sounds like you failed consent class. You cannot consent if you are not informed about what you are consenting to. Oshi sells goods for you to eat. Hell, I told him it was for gifts when I bought gifts. Voluntary interactions by people who are informed about the outcomes ahead of time.
There is a big difference between a used hard good a few years later and buying expressly to resell. This is a Bitcoin branded consumable product being purchased expressly to resell in violation of the Bitcoin only branding. Clearly a violation of oshis stated intent.
I would not object to him attempting to resell used oshi goods but I doubt he'll get any takers.
Noâyou are wrong. In voluntary interactions, you dont get to dictate what people do once the transaction completes.
Is it you? You seem awfully obsessed with the resellers sovereignty but incapable of seeing oshi as having any say or sovereignty over his handmade goods.
Let's take an analogy. I make small electronic gizmos and you want to buy one. I have the right to sell to you or not. If you want to make a blinky light toy then I'd probably sell just fine. If you want to make a bomb I would probably choose not to sell to you. By lying about your intended use you violate my sovereign right to choose who I interact with as a seller.
If I go and say explicitly only available for bitcoin or only for people who make blinky light toys and not bomb makers and you make a shitcoin bomb after I sell to you, you violated my sovereignty.
lol. Iâll say it againâIn voluntary interactions, you dont get to dictate what people do once the transaction completes. Once Ohi sent the product and received payment, thats the end of control. Otherwise, if you sell your house to someone who supports something you donât like, are you going to claim your sovereignty has been violated?
Ridiculous position to take.
I'm done arguing with an idiot. What you are describing is not a voluntary interaction.
Only someone who produces no value for the world could possibly think that those who do should have no say in what is done with the things they produce.
You have drafted a perfect set of rules to create a world where no one makes anything.
You should have taken the L and learned from it when you donât understand voluntary participation in society. You think you control otherâs private property after itâs transferred, without prearranged contracts, if they do something you donât like, and would rather use coercive force to âhunt them downâdictate what is done after a transaction is closed.
You donât.
Really bad take, and by someone who should know better. Just accept you are wrong and grow.
Do you plan to use force against the people who create things? If not you must accept that producers can sell or not sell to any person at any time for any reason they choose. If you are willing to use force against the people who create things you are a violence loving totalitarian asshole.
No one is saying that you have total control forever over the things you produce. I'm saying that oshi is perpetually out of stock by selling Bitcoin only. It is his right to say he does not want shitcoin resellers buying up product that could have gone to his true Bitcoin customers instead. He has stated that preference. That makes it no longer a voluntary interaction on his part.
Iâll write it slowly cause it seems like you are having trouble â nostr:npub1uzt238htjzpq39dxmltlx60vxym9fetk9czz6kddq6fhvkf4z3usy9qtrh sold a product and received fair value for it. Oshi sold it with all available understanding of who is buying it. That is a voluntary interaction.
Just because someone later does something oshi doesnât like doesnât change the voluntary act. You were advocating force to âhunt them downââcompletely totalitarian crap.
Sure, all available
I wrote about this recently, consent obtained through a lie is not consent. The victim of the lie cannot give informed consent because you misinformed them. You fail consent class again. May all the women of nostr be warned to steer clear.
If I say I use it to lube between my butt cheeks to prevent chafing while jogging, he has every right to try to figure out which customer I am and stop selling to me in the future.
You again fail to see any perspective other than middle man or at best consumer. Go build something of value to the world. You'll see that the people who create are people with rights and autonomy too.
nostr:nprofile1qqswp94gnm4epqsgjkndl4lnd8krzdj5u4mzuppdtxksdymkty63g7gpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uq3zamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd3skuep0cg36l7 if you read that, I swear I've only eaten or gifted your products. To the best of my knowledge those I have gifted them to have only used them as food. I only wrote that for reductio ad absurdum effect. Please don't ban me. I swear I don't even jog.
Lollll all goooood fam!
OSHI IS FOOD. EAT IT / GIFT IT AS SUCH.
You obviously are trying to backpedal your statement and change the topic to vendor rights. Of course vendors can sell to whomever he/she wants. Vendors have the right to not sell to whomever they choose.
You still advocated force and violence âhunt them downâ for after-the-fact knowledge. Nice try.
In voluntary interactions, you dont get to dictate what people do once the transaction completes. Sorry for your loss.
How is oshi supposed to stop selling to a customer he doesn't want if he doesn't know which one it is?
I'm not backpedaling shit. You just have poor reading comprehension. I stand by my original position. If you know who it is or have a way to figure it out do it and give the info to oshi.
They have contacted me
Now you are just boring with your evasion of your mistake (or non-comprehension) and ad hominem attacks. Go back and read through the thread.
Bottom line: You donât get to dictate how people act after a transaction. New corollaryâyou donât have a (sovereign) right to not be lied to, whatever that is.
Glad Oshi was contacted by the seller who understood their mistakeâa credit to human nature.
Truly a fucking idiot and a just plain bad person. If you lied to someone to get their consent you do not have their consent. You are just a liar.
I'm being inconsistent but you've spent 2 days telling me the reseller did nothing wrong and now say they realized their mistake.
You are blocked. Enjoy your free last word.
To err is human.
To forgive, divine.