My friend at church (older guy) got duped for 60k. I tried to help him "get his money out" and found a well done PWA that mimicked an exchange. Told him his money is gone and the site was fake.

He recently said he's back to talking with the "woman" and she said it's just an international version of the site. I told him that's a lie and he said he believes her.

Not sure what I could say or do to change his mind. 😑

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I had a similar conversation with an older gentleman at one of our meetups. All you can do is inform them the best you can. Hopefully it starts to click.

I just messaged him and said "GM stop talking to the scammer Grace"

Ask what is it that he's trying to do (saving money for grandkids in digital gold?, and offer helping with that).

Maybe argue that at least for the diversification sake, it's always better to split their stack amongst few services and custodians, and not putting all eggs into Grace's basket.

In person might be more effective than in texts. Especially if he's getting defensive.

I'll try an angle on this.

He stopped by to show me his new GMC truck and asked if I knew how to check if his wired USD cleared to crypto dot com

"Idk banking stuff"

"You sending more crypto to scammer Grace?"

...crickets...

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We have an older acquaintance who thinks Alicia Keys is his lawyer. He sends her money. His peers stopped nostr:npub1uense4apn73tvh4u20tzlp6u72g4kdustzsm0k0sqy6yuwh5jxlsy97y76 from disabusing the guy of his fantasy, saying “don’t destroy that man’s dream.” Kind, or karmic?

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My earlier note did not act right, transmit, until I removed the most recent relay that Fiatjaf had said was a good AI something or other.

Anyway, it was about an older man in our acquaintance who believes Alicia Keys is his lawyer and he sends her money. His friends stopped nostr:npub1uense4apn73tvh4u20tzlp6u72g4kdustzsm0k0sqy6yuwh5jxlsy97y76 from bursting his bubble because it would destroy his dream. Getting senile sux a big bag of d.

I literally just helped a client with this same exact scam. While I stopped the bleeding I couldn’t for the life of me figure out they got the PWA loaded since i confirmed he was using the correct iOS store app off the App Store.

No idea but scammers are smart sometimes.

Ya this is a very sophisticated scam, Im sure he clicked something and just forgot, but I couldnt figure it out with him, but at least he stopped losing funds.

I have seen a scenario where once a target is on a network they use the "game center" feature that is on by default in ios to connect to your device. The "game" is a fake home screen that is shared onto the device "to be able to play with friends"

They spoof basic password prompts for icloud or email because you are interacting with a faked home screen on your phone.

He could punch in his password, they take that and drain funds, remove the game and he comes back to the real app later confused by what happened.

That's an interesting method. This was all done remotely. My client accessed the legitimate Crypto dot com app (which I confirmed) but when he loads it a fake exchange was PWA overlaying the app where he did all kinds of fake trades and had fake balances and they sent and received crypto to and from their wallets to him (Which I confirmed on various chains) when they would let him "take a little profit" to keep him in the scam. Really wild shit.

wow

I know, I'm no developer, but I'm fairly techy and am baffled. As you can imagine, the end of my helping him was an invitation to burn the fuckin' phone and start new.

this is why i keep hardware locked up. Wifi free. One use per device. Only use on secure networks and air gapped.

I've got my normie gear and my speciality devices and overall pretty good hygene. Also, even if I wasn't married, I wouldn't be taking tech/investment advice from some honey pot on a dating app which is how this shit often starts. Goes a long way to not get your wallet fucked when you don't try to fuck people you don't know through your phone.

I was so fortunate to come from an extremely distrusting background before bitcoin. I didn't trust myspace let alone some dating app 🤣

My insular sicilian upbringing prepared me for this myself.