### Defederated Mostr?
Something I’ve been wondering for a while is what will happen when nostr’s style of reports and moderation meet up with the fediverse server / defederation model.
Well a couple days ago i went go follow somebody in nos.social who’s a fediverse user. Nos now supports just direct putting in @user@fediverse.server style names which it translates to a nip-05 at mostr.pub as a gateway. It works really well, most of the time, now i can just follow and interact with anybody on the fediverse from nostr. Amazing.
But this user didnt’ come up. So i started digging and eventually found a service that lets you look up a fediverse server and see which other servers have defederated them.
In the case of mostr.pub, there’s been a bunch:
https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=mostr.pub
The reasons fediverse admins give for defederating are interesting and worth noting.
Most common is that mostr.pub isn’t respecting user/content reports from the fediverse and doesn’t moderate or take down content. Most fediverse servers are pretty active about looking at content reports and takedown requests, most nostr relay operators are not. So this isn’t a surprise. But a gateway which would be able to reach a broader section of the fediverse, or different parts of it for nostr users, would need to look at and respond to reports.
The next thing, is that all nostr content is made available through the gateway, similar to the first, there is not registration process like we have with permissioned or paid relays. It’s a fat pipe, and folks in the fediverse don’t like that. Feels like spam to them.
Related, some folks blocked it because they saw porn, right wing, homophobic, racist, or hate speech coming from nostr in to the fediverse. Honestly, I’ve seen way more go the other direction, coming from the fediverse via mostr in to nostr, but these folks probably are going to defederate anything that isn’t tighly controlled. Just like fediverse admins who block tons of sites and won’t federate with Threads.
Another set of defederation comes from crypto. Some fediverse communities are very anti-crypto and feel there’s lots of pro-crypto content coming from Nostr. I don’t see folks with this attitude wanting to federate with any gateway to nostr, but i could imagine a nostr relay and gateway which was only no-coiners which would be accepted. Meh, fine. These folks aren’t going to be convinced by anything we do on the nostr end.
Then there is a funny category, servers who defederate mostr.pub just because Alex is involved with it! Again, there’s nothing we could do about them.
One person even gave the defederation reason as: “Sex with Alex Gleason :heart_eyes:”
Lastly, one server blocked mostr because you can create AI generated content on Nostr… interesting… but again.. not much to do about that.
I think the solution is to be able to have something bridges the fediverse and nostr ways of doing things. I think nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 is actually working on this with ditto.
If we had multiple gateways, like we have multiple relays, then we could impliment different rules on those bridges. That would both be compatible with the nostr way of things, put your content multiple places, and each user & relay can decide what they want to host and see. And it’d also be compatible with the fediverse norms.
Thanks for reading my little exploration in to nostr and the mostr.pub fediverse gateway.
