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“Governments are tax farms that manage human livestock.”

On a farm, can the livestock vote for new farmers? Can they negotiate with the farmer for different terms of their exchange? Can the livestock overthrow the farmer if they get up fed up with the farm? I don’t think this analogy holds water.

The rest of what you said is not an argument against taxes.

The Beave 2y ago

Voting does not make taxation less theft. A victim getting to choose between two rapists does not make the rape and less wrong. Geez.

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Dakota 2y ago

But that’s not the situation at all. The rapist is getting raped and doesn’t get anything good or wanted in return. With taxes, you do get good things in return. And even if you don’t directly get them, other people do, and that’s so so good for you because we live in a society where we all benefit many order of magnitudes greater than what we could on our own because of the division of labor. That’s straight from the book Human Action by Austrian economist Ludwig Von Mises.

Also, the raped person doesn’t get to be involved with the process of creating the terms of the exchange. In a good healthy functioning state, that would be the case.

The Beave 2y ago

I really think you are misreading von Mises if you think he was talking about taxes being a benefit.

And that is *exactly* the case. I. Do. Not. Consent. Therefore, the action taken by anyone is immoral and should be preemptively stopped, struggled against, or violently opposed.

I DO NOT CONSENT TO HAVING MY EARNINGS GARNISHED. Nothing good comes of that.

Low Information Voter 2y ago

Dakota, all the good things you mentioned can be provided by collective action outside the state. And have been, in many different societies. Just not under the (historically unproven and experimental) modern Western nation state.

For a brief overview of what we're talking about, maybe read over: https://archive.org/details/TheEthicsOfLiberty0