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I have not read spooner. That being said, force is inevitable. It is the automatic default in any human interaction save when it is tamed by other force. So long as avoidance becomes impossible (such as in large and populous civilizations) there will ALWAYS be force, be it defensive or offensive. Governments are instituted amongst men so as to subordinate force to its proper retaliatory purposes.

But I will agree that this leads to a state of entropy wherein, eventually, whatever power a state possesses becomes like the One Ring and brings its elites into tyranny over the generations until a nation is ruled by sniveling cowards and snakes.

But then that state falls and, from the anarchy, comes more violence. There will ALWAYS be force. Even in a totally anarchic system, the moment a man is robbed and robs back what is his, or rescues the stolen property of his friend, that man BECOMES the state. Whenever one group of people come together to fight off barbarians, that militia captain BECOMES like government.

Duncan Cary Palmer 6mo ago

Offensive force is utterly immoral, condemned by all men of good will and prohibited by Jesus/God. Nothing "instituted among men" can make that right.

All such warring organizations will ultimately self destruct, or atrophy as they are replaced by moral systems. I consider such organizations the fiefdoms of satan, and believe scripture teaches that God himself will ultimately destroy any holdouts.

Defensive force is moral, but optional, depending on the circumstances and choice of the individual or group being aggressed against.

"Anarchy" literally means "no rulers," a situation far more prone to peace than a society oppressed by control freaks who believe they have a right to rule their neighbors.

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Josephus 6mo ago

I didn’t say offensive force was moral. I said it is inevitable. Conflicts will arrive. No moral society will be so perfectly free of any social conflict so as to avoid it entirely. Criminals always exist, even in the most peaceful ones.

Anarchy does NOT produce peace. There is no such thing as an anarchist society that remains peaceful for long. Inevitably, 2 or more groups disagree on something and then come to blows. The court system of a government is meant to dissipate this natural human tendency.

The problem is when the courts become the WEAPONS of an immoral state, ignoring criminals whilst dissipating your moral Revolution against them.