Something that neither you nor he can do on #LightningNetwork. You can read and learn something from people smarter than you or you can continue living in ignorance. Either way, no one cares.

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I can't know how much money I sent to someone on the Lightning Network?...

Maybe I can learn from you. You sound smart. 🤪

Well, you sound retarded.

The guy traced the money on Monero and told you where the money were received and how much money that address had. Something which you couldn't do on Lightning. The last screenshot has the most interesting information for you.

You're esentially saying when you pay someone you "traced" it to the person you paid (no shit, what a revelation).

No, read the actual thread. He came up with a challenge separate from our original discussion. I never denied anything in his challenge about Lightning and Monero. It says right there in your screenshots.

Second, on the transaction level with Lightning, you're relying on third parties not colluding to maintain your privacy. Nodes on Lightning can see amounts going through them. Nodes on Monero can't see amounts even when using someone elses node and even if they colluded. Lightning nodes in a transaction are directly linked and know the hop before and after. Monero stealth addresses are unlinkable to other addresses. Technically, if Lightning nodes on your path collude they'll know with 100% accuracy both the amount and public node it went to.

The privacy he's describing gets even worse in the real world since most LN users are on non-private custodial wallets and LSPs (Compare custodial LN wallet downloads and the largest LSPs). Centralized honeypots of information that can see most of the network and directly reduces your privacy even if you're using it LN correctly.