"Qubic never actually hit 51% btw. Don't fall for it.

However they do have a large enough hashrate to perform multi-block re-orgs with their selfish mining strategy.

They disabled API hashrate reporting so that they could lie about it.

Keep mining and ignore the noise."

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I've still never been able to mine.

It's really dumb that there's no mining software ready to go out of the box, where changing the configuration (setting your own payout address, changing your pool, etc) is optional

Have you tried Gupax? Very easy.

Tari immediately starts merge mining with Monero by default too once it syncs.

Considering it now but looks like it's released for desktop before Android - that's incredibly dumb.

The fact that I've tried to do this before, it didn't work, and the community neither fixed that nor helped me, makes me hesitant to support the community by spending more time trying to use software that isn't designed correctly.

Support the community yes, but do it by spending time trying to figure out child-brained software? Idk

You want to mine on Android?

I'm normal enough to own a modern phone, so Android is the first platform I should mine on. Not about personal feelings.

I'm still considering gupax but it just seems like the Android xmrig app I tried except worse due to wrong platform

Go mine Bitcoin and shut the fuck up.

I don't mine Bitcoin or shut the fuck up, retard

Who do you think you're talking to?

I believe he's talking to you, the idiot in this thread.

Incorrect & irrelevant because I asked who he thinks he's talking to, not who he is talking to (me) or who you think I am (nobody cares)

The delusions are strong.

Yours and many people's, yes, but sadly that's not what you meant

Dude, you are a barrel of laughs 😂.

Hope you find yourself well.

Another 0 IQ reply reminding me how people like you make this era so shitty

People don't typically mine on their phones. But yea you can do it, still not very hard to set up, but not as dead simple as the options.

Not getting what you're saying

I'm saying there is no dead simple option like Gupx or Tari for phones. But you can mine on your phone with a little bit of effort. Though I'm not sure it would be worth it unless that's literally all you have.

A used server, ideal for mining monero, will set you back ~$500.00

A used server isn't ideal for mining Monero you fucking retarded piece of shit (being harsh due to your other worthless spam in my inbox)

Didn't ask

You said it's ideal, which is retarded

And I'm not holding back on harshness due to your other worthless spam in my inbox

What hardware you use bro?

Cusiouse how you get those numbers 💪💪👊👊

Jfc, now I have notifications for miner bros talking about shitty hardware in my replies

Not your fault of course, you're just replying to something you're interested in

Intel Xeon CPU E5 -2683 v4@2.10Ghz x 16

On a Dell PowerEdge T430

Nice.

Gracias.

The community has more CPU power available from phones than desktops/laptops, and yet there would still probably be less electricity consumed at full phone saturation than full desktop/laptop saturation.

The longer I discuss this the more I do not want to validate people who have made it harder to mine on the right platform than the wrong one. If I have to waste electricity mining on the wrong device for the Monero community to not fail, because the Monero community has programmers who do stupid shit and none who fix the issues in over 10 years, then Monero deserves to fail.

Also, if the only easy to use app is for the wrong platform, obviously it makes sense that the right platform wouldn't be "typical"

It's weird how it sounds like you're using the symptom as justification for the sickness

There is a reason why it isn't typical. Because it's such little hashrate it isn't really worth it except for the novelty.

But hey you seem to feel strongly about it so maybe you should be the one to create an easy to use monero phone mining app, ya? Or if you can't code create a bounty and pay for someone to do it.

1. If the hashrate of all our phones isn't worth it because it's too small then the smaller amount from desktops and laptops obviously isn't worth it either. Please reflect on how the fuck you just made me explain that? It's like individualism vs collectivism except the whole context of the thread is you calling for community action so how did you get confused like that? Seriously, reflect

2. Saving this project no one else has cared enough to save in over 10 years is neither a high enough priority to be what I do with my own coding time, nor any of my money for paying others

3. I'm unable to log in on the Monero bounties site and nobody is even relaying basic stuff for me like this reply to the last question asked in one of my bounty threads nostr:nevent1qqsvdcdafmylx0xnx40z388zhhjr0dmx6hj6j04v90m5l5vu9sk6uwgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgq3qwamvxt2tr50ghu4fdw47ksadnt0p277nv0vfhplmv0n0z3243zyqxpqqqqqqzkux22l

Digit you are too combative...

I was offering a simple suggestion (Gupax or Tari) because you were saying there was no out of the box option. So I gave you two thinking maybe you hadn't heard of them.

Then you pivoted to not being easy enough for Android and I agreed that it isnt as simple. I offered an explanation for why I think it hasn't caught on (I could be wrong!)

I don't know what else you want from me.

If you want an easy out of the box monero mining app for phones then create it yourself or pay others to make it (unless you just enjoy complaining and pointing fingers at everyone else then fair enough, thats a bad attitude to have, but sure carry on)

I did not pivot. Stop lying.

If you were telling the truth, anyone could scroll up and see that, and I also would have probably tried what you suggested.

But your bad arguments are now devolving into lying and insulting me, which others were already doing in your thread while you were willingly making bad arguments.

At no point here (while I was still interested in your suggestion) did you even try to present a good strategic plan for using your suggestion - you just ignored the problems that you've now devolved to lying about.

Before I mentioned Gupax and Tari (no Android mentioned):

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After I mentioned them (Android pops up):

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So I'm not allowed to add a relevant point on the subject matter while addressing your response, but you're allowed to completely ignore everything I just said about how fucked up your reply just was and completely change the subject to how you're upset that I brought up the relevant point of Android support?

No, you can do whatever you want, but you did pivot to Android. And I just showed you that you did after you said you didn't and that I'm "lying"

Dude you came unprovoked with the accustions and cussing directed at me for offering a couple suggestions, but I'm the one upset? 😂

What was so "fucked up" about my reply?

I did not pivot to Android. I repeat: stop lying.

Mentioning Android while it seems relevant, while also addressing your reply otherwise, is not pivoting. MAYBE you could call it pivoting if I didn't address the rest, but that would still be a stretch since the Android point seemed relevant and there didn't seem to be any requirement to address everything you said. But I did anyway, so what the absolute fuck are you on about?

And what accusations did I come unprovoked with?

I explained what was so fucked up about that reply in my reply to it, and now I'm pointing out that it was fucked up to change the subject without addressing anything I said, so shouldn't you be going back to that reply instead of asking me to explain again in the same thread after you changed the subject? Like, why not scroll up instead of asking me to explain again?

You could even ask for a link instead of an explanation - here, I'll give you one even though you didn't ask (like how I addressed your reply without just changing the subject to android, even though you weren't making it clear a response was needed)

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I guess you asked for an explanation instead of scrolling up or asking for a link because you want to waste more of my time and energy, and more importantly, more of the time and energy of people reading this, to maximize the number of people who will believe your lies about me.

I advise anyone trying to understand the thread to stop reading here and just follow the above link, because now I have to just copy and paste from the above link while adjusting words to past tense and shit, to jump through this manipulative fuck's hoops while not actually adding anything to the thread.

So, here's what was fucked up about that reply, again:

Your bad arguments have devolved into lying and insulting me, which others were already doing in your thread while you were willingly making bad arguments.

At no point here (while I was still interested in your suggestion) did you even try to present a good strategic plan for using your suggestion - you just ignored the problems that you've now devolved to lying about.

I know you've created a huge gish gallop here, so I have to add, don't forget to answer me asking what accusations I came unprovoked with

Nice. Another accusation that I'm "gish galloping".

Heres another one:

>"It's weird how it sounds like you're using the symptom as justification for the sickness"

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That wasn't an unfounded accusation, wtf

You still haven't explained how Android is worse to change my view that you were using a symptom as justification for the sickness

You've "pivoted" to acting like I shouldn't have brought up Android but also saying

that's not what you're saying

If you think "using a symptom as justification for the sickness" is an unfounded accusation and you want to discuss that view with me, then you would need to somehow have a convincing argument that Android isn't the better platform to for the initial launch of a Monero mining gui

You used bad arguments to explain how Android is a bad choice of platform, and then switched from arguing badly to lying about it.

Do you have a better argument for why Android was such a shitty topic to bring up, that me adding it to a response about the original topic when it seemed relevant to me is worse than you completely ignoring how you just lied about me, to change the subject to you being upset I brought it up?

I assume if you had a better argument for this, you'd have presented it, and you're just relying on people not really paying attention and being easily manipulated into thinking I'm the asshole here

I didn't say "Android was such a shitty topic to bring up" don't put words in my mouth. I explained why I think it's not that popular to mine Monero on.

You are super opinionated all the time, but I can't have my own opinions?

Show me a single lie I've said in our entire conversation

I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm responding to what you implied.

If Android wasn't such a shitty topic to bring up, then why did you just post a reply purely about me mentioning Android in response to me calling out your abusive behavior towards me? Was your point supposed to somehow be "sorry for being abusive when all you did was reasonably mention Android" but you forgot to type that part?

I didn't ask why you think it's bad for mining, I asked if you have a better argument for why it's so bad that it shouldn't even be brought up, since you seemed to be implying I shouldn't have brought it up. I still cannot comprehend what the hell you could be saying at this point if you're recognizing that everything I said about Android made sense.

Since you asked, I'll attach screenshots of the lies I'm responding to here. Now please explain what the fuck you meant with all this if you're not saying I shouldn't have brought up Android

Thanks for showing us that I never said "Android was such a shitty topic to bring up" 🤦‍♂️

Abusive? Lol. Yea man you're such a victim. It's everyone else except you!

I'm done here. Have a good day!

This is not an explanation of what the fuck you meant if you didn't think I shouldn't bring up Android

What the fuck did you mean by "pivoting" if I'm not allowed to bring up Android in addition to the other points you're wrong about?

You don't have it being a change of subject since it was in addition, not in stead

You don't have it being a bad topic to bring up if you're insisting that's not what you're saying, right? Or is it that you're implying it but refusing to say it to somehow make it so I'm not allowed to respond without "putting words in your mouth?" I don't get it, what's happening here?

*if I'm allowed

not not allowed

awkward typo

I can't wait until the mining hacks for accessing CPUs in home appliances, arrive.

Wasn't there already some bots hacking into home appliances to mine Monero somewhat recently? I could've sworn. It was a washing machine connected to wifi or something. Maybe I'm misremembering

I also don't see any mentions of gupax until years into it being really dumb to release for desktop before Android

Like, this isn't an old project from when the only advantage on the Android side was power efficiency

Gupax. You are ready to go in 5 minutes via remote node.

Not seeing an Android version & not convinced it's worth trying ANOTHER app that promises to take more than 0 seconds to set up for no reason when the last one turned out to just not have any available instructions for getting it working

What would make sense:

You say I can download the app and press "start" immediately, you say adding my own payout address should take less than a minute, I download the app and press start immediately and add my own payout address in less than a minute.

What I've experienced:

You say I can download the app and finish the dev's work for them in a reasonable timeframe. I download the app and spend a lot more than 5 minutes trying to make it work, but it doesn't work.

Your suggestion now:

You say again I can download another app that looks even worse, and finish the dev's work for them in a reasonable timeframe. I'm hesitant to try to finish another dev's work for a community that wasted my time last time and has spent over 10 years refusing to properly finish making one of the most basic and vital tools.

There's just some people, you just can't reach.

I don't care

Trying to reach Digit is my job, deciding if it works is in God's hands or Digit's

☝️

That?

That is indeed a retarded take.

Incorrect

You keep saying that.

I don't think you know what that means.

Do you not?

Rephrased: you insulted me wrongly. Did you understand this time?

I shall then endeavor to insult you correctly! 💯

Who is Mama's little stud-muffin?

Seems like you forgot what you were doing halfway through, unless you think "correct" means asking a question instead of making a statement and you think there's something insulting to me about you typing weird shit

Utterly stunning in scope of stupidity.

Please go on.

Failed again

You're not capable of insulting me accurately because you're such a worthless piece of shit, you can't handle thinking that accurately about human qualities without having a mental breakdown about your own

What a beautiful morning!

Look at who is actually incoherent with rage.

Failed again (second same reply in a row)

You're not capable of insulting me accurately because you're such a worthless piece of shit, you can't handle thinking that accurately about human qualities without having a mental breakdown about your own

Such owies 🤣

Failed again (#3)

You're not capable of insulting me accurately because you're such a worthless piece of shit, you can't handle thinking that accurately about human qualities without having a mental breakdown about your own

Oh my!

We have a rager!

He's told me now, three times!

Meh. You so butthurt. 🤣

Failed again (#4)

You're not capable of insulting me accurately because you're such a worthless piece of shit, you can't handle thinking that accurately about human qualities without having a mental breakdown about your own

Looks like you are having fun with your own mental breakdown!

Lookit the happy lil rage cultist!

Failed again (#5)

You're not capable of insulting me accurately because you're such a worthless piece of shit, you can't handle thinking that accurately about human qualities without having a mental breakdown about your own

Hum, you obviously have no idea of what an insult is.

But your actions?

Are the actual insult to your "intelligence"

Failed again

I'm surprised by now you haven't just tried a classic like "Digit doesn't want to talk to you" or something

It seems like you're desperate to prove you can come up with an insult yourself, but you're not willing to face the pain, especially since you're the only one that gets hurt (I already try to be honest & can handle it)

Hard to fix this for you because rephrasing it still used the word "insulting" and idk how to rephrase it without any words as difficult as "incorrect"

Update: I'm mining for the WikiLeaks donation address now with gupax, if I'm understanding what I see on my screen.

Can't do it forever, feels weird after how some people responded here. Just lending temporary support during this emergency.