Sorry i joined the expensive mediocre cult a decade ago. Its the most fiat thing i do so that everything plays nice together

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I mean...I still don't know what plays nice together that I'm missing out on? Does Apple wipe your butt for you or something?

Nope, wife got me on black berry cause of bbm. 6 months later gets an iPhone.

At one time my phone, computer, apple tv thing all had to be apple to talk communicate with each other without extra programs ect now doesn’t matter. Was an issue in the aughts

Thats all it was, i hate the cult but it all works together.

I had a creative zen back in the day the audio quality was second to none apple is mediocre reliability.

Yeah, from what I can tell Apple has been really really good at marketing, and then trapping their users while brainwashing them into thinking they are somehow better off. It's like technological Stockholm Syndrome on a mass scale.

Slick marketing a product thats has a great user interface who cares whats under the plastic shell.

I will say their cpu chip tech puts intell to shame, but thats like saying you will only get 250k miles in a ford vs 500k in a toyota, either way you will want something new at the 10yr mark

I have definitely heard their hardware is good, but I don't think it's actually that much better

I am using it as a glorified ipad not worth it, but happy wife…