Someone give me one example of something an apple product can do for me that I need. One example of how a feature in the apple ecosystem can add value to my life.
Make it make sense.
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Convenience
I personally don't find the tech I use inconvenient in the slightest.
Thatβs great. The main appeal of Apple is convenience within the walled garden. Not trying to convince you to do it, just telling you thatβs the βneedβ for people.
I get that's why folks do it, it's the main argument I hear. I also suspect most of them have never tried anything else, or if they did they gave up immediately because it was different.
Yea pretty much this.
The whole fam is on Apple. This means we spend time enjoying shared experiences instead of figuring out how to share the experiences.
You do know that we also can share things, right?
Shut the front door!
Yep, share shitty pixelated videos over text because the two platforms donβt play nice (Appleβs fault). The blue bubble loyalty is strong. I have multiple group texts where Android users are silently left off because blue bubble users donβt want to degrade the experience. These are nice people who would never exclude that person from a group conversation in real life.
In these group text cases, noβ¦you canβt share things because you arenβt even in the conversation.
So, essentially the value proposition is you can be part of the elitist club that won't involve you in a conversation, due to Apple's UI making the experience of talking to a non-apple users unpleasant?
Yeah, I'm good π
Kinda yeah. Not ideal at all.
This is the big reason why Apple isnβt implementing RCS or putting iMessage on Android. Theyβve discovered that messaging is the killer feature to get people on the platform. And once you're there, everything else gets an Apple logo for convenienceβs sake.
It's great marketing on their end, but I'm happy to have a great messaging experience without a greedy corporation gatekeeping and manipulating me into social classes.
Google's not making RCS part of AOSP either, since THEY want people on Android locked into Messages as a result of carrier incompetency and slow adaptation.
Both can get fucked as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I don't use stock messaging apps either. Hell, I barely use sms or mms at all anymore, and very few people I communicate with do either.
I wish I could say that was the case; either I have to text or use fucking WhatsApp.
I have lived on Android, BlackBerry, and Nokia. Finally went with the family crowd for the convenience. I really wanna get a Light Phone to cut back on smart phone usage, unrelated to yesterdayβs situation.
Was your Android experience 15 years ago? I feel like I have heard this from every iPhone user I speak to "Oh I used to use Android". Man, idk. Any time I've fiddled with an iPhone I feel like my hands are tied.
It was 10 years ago and I didnβt hate it. I know Iβd be great on Android, Graphene, or Light. Itβs the social pressure to be in the walled garden. And because of that, all of our other home devices have followed suit.
That's definitely what it comes down to, social pressure. Apple is a brand, like Nike or Ralph Lauren. Everyone else is a broke bitch for not buying in, and they don't want to be seen hanging around "the poors" π
Aside from iMessage and the increasingly deteriorating design guidelines and principles Apple utilizes for both hardware and software, both Android and iOS are on feature parity.
There's no reason to fanboy for either aside from desiring more freedom to do shit on your phone, which Apple makes a bit more difficult compared to Android's sideloading.
Sorry i joined the expensive mediocre cult a decade ago. Its the most fiat thing i do so that everything plays nice together
I mean...I still don't know what plays nice together that I'm missing out on? Does Apple wipe your butt for you or something?
Nope, wife got me on black berry cause of bbm. 6 months later gets an iPhone.
At one time my phone, computer, apple tv thing all had to be apple to talk communicate with each other without extra programs ect now doesnβt matter. Was an issue in the aughts
Thats all it was, i hate the cult but it all works together.
I had a creative zen back in the day the audio quality was second to none apple is mediocre reliability.
Yeah, from what I can tell Apple has been really really good at marketing, and then trapping their users while brainwashing them into thinking they are somehow better off. It's like technological Stockholm Syndrome on a mass scale.
Slick marketing a product thats has a great user interface who cares whats under the plastic shell.
I will say their cpu chip tech puts intell to shame, but thats like saying you will only get 250k miles in a ford vs 500k in a toyota, either way you will want something new at the 10yr mark
ease of use, device compatibility (your own and others), interface, product design, camera functionality, and for many people it just boils down to familiarity
I get that personal preference on UI is a factor, but I'm not unhappy or feel like my current devices are lacking in any of those areas.
Yeah but thereβs other factors. I think a big one for he current population is familiarity. The iPhone was a lot of peopleβs first smart phone, so theyβre familiar with it and donβt feel comfortable switching to something different that theyβd have to relearn.
Device compatibility is also a big one - syncing content like messages and files, sharing passwords, AirPlay, βfind myβ¦β features, universal notes, airdrop, instant hotspot, phone call βhand offβ. I generally like Macs wayyyy better than any other computer and having a phone with compatible features is extremely nice to have.
I know android phones may have some of these features, but again, that comes back to familiarity. Even if android has some of these functions, I know how all these functions work on the iPhone and mac already and not having to relearn and configure them in a different OS is a huge time saver.
I agree, familiarity seems to be the number one factor for why people stay with Apple
This is subjective, but as a photographer, the camera does color balance and skin smoothing better.
Once you are in the ecosystem AirPlay is a much better experience than Chromecast (Iβve spent $1000s on both, so I can compare)
Copy paste between Apple devices is automatic. My iPad can serve as a second monitor for my MacBook automatically.
You can run your apps on your computer without any fiddling. (Can be done with Android. I want to be fair in my list for you.)
Honestly, many of the benefits are greatest when youβre in the ecosystem. I own two MacBook pros, and iMac, and two iPad pros, oh and an Apple TV. For me, the iPhone made a ton of sense. My files are everywhere. My apps are everywhere. Everything is everywhere, automatically, with no effort.
Android *can* do many of these things. But it takes 0 effort Apple, and I spend enough time fiddling around with other things. I opted for convenience in this case, and Iβve been happy with the overall experience.
If I was using a bunch of other Appletech I can understand why it would be convenient to have an iPhone, don't get me wrong. Vuit I also don't think 90% of that would benefit me.
Than again I also spent years with marginal to no home internet, so it was certainly not a focus. π
I agree. I dislike elitism on any side. These were just personal reasons, and i recommend android to a great many people depending on their usage needs.
Agreed! And while I know sometimes I come across as an Android elitist, it's just to bust people's balls. Neither is better than the other, I just hate seeing how hard it is to innovate or be free to choose on the Apple side because that walled garden also acts as a prison. People feel like they have to settle for what Lord Cook decrees, because they feel they will miss out on the cool flashy shit otherwise.
It's like choosing between living on some tropical island where the ruler gets to have a fair amount of control over your life, and living outside of that space where things can be a bit of work (and at times fucked up) but you have the freedom to move around and build as you choose.
I am not the island dweller. I never will be, it's just not in my nature. But I also respect people's choice to live that life, even if I don't understand how the tradeoff is worth it.
I agree. Its different methods, both making unique innovations and stealing ideas from one another afterwards. Its a bit of a diversity.
Hell I can't even manage to exist in more open source places without making a stink about restrictions, I'm just a rebel that never settles for "free enough" π