Nostr

Can you clarify what v4v means for you?

You create something of Value and release it to the world for free with no barriers or limitations and if someone finds Value in it, they can return Value back in the form of Time, Talent or Tressure.

The V4V model was created by nostr:nprofile1qyfhwumn8ghj7mmxve3ksctfdch8qatz9uq3jamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwdhx7un59eek7cmfv9kz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcqyzyrl6jvqu0a53qx62mxhcsuk8k673drupvq2rtzq8k0r56edw7rjnvr7kj and John C Dvorak on their Podcast No Agenda. When Adam started podcasting 2.0 and we added lightning to it Bitcoiners started using the term V4V to mean just sending someone sats for something but that just a small piece of it.

Adam and Gigi created value4value.info to help explain this better.

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SeedSigner 1y ago

Maybe I mean "bitcoin fueled micropayments" then? I didn't realize there was a formalized ruberick around v4v, because it does usually turn out as nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj alludes.

semisol 1y ago

Yeah. Most people view v4v as get first pay later.

Which is a horrible model.

ChadF and 33 others 1y ago

but that is the model, you can pay as little or as much as you want when you want. You also have to ask people to support you.

V4V started in the podcasting space so that's where I have the most experience with it. For those that fully embrace it they are putting out 1-3 hour podcast without ads or sponsors and asking listeners to give back how they see fit. This model doesn't work for everything or everyone, but you gain complete freedom and you can't put a price on that.

SeedSigner 1y ago

My only thought is that it is exhausting, and can end up being a distraction (think of hosting a never-ending telethon), having to constantly ask for financial support for something that is delivering real value but being given away for free.

ChadF and 33 others 1y ago

I get that, V4V hasn't really been tried outside of content creators (podcasters, musicians, writers etc..) but I would still recommend checking out the value4value.info site and maybe you can pick up some tips and tricks from it.

I only chimed in on the first post because paywalls aren't "V4V" but the community aspect of the SeedSigner project has the V4V spirit if that makes sense.