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Maybe Anarchists (left) and Capitalists (right) can coexist successfully in a free and stateless society. Thank you for forcing me to think about this more.

Jeff Swann 2y ago

The main problem among left anarchists seems to come when their ideas do not pan out the way they would like because most people do not enjoy being vaguely socially obligated to one another.

For example, a gift economy is just a less precise version of trade & the lack of precision is really only preferred by those who have less to offer & therfore something to gain from keeping things vague.

As an ancap I tend to be wary of anyone from the left because I have seen the mental gymnastics they will engage in to justify stealing (even from friends) when things aren't going their way.

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frozear 2y ago

Sure. You can label all of humankind as Machiavellian all you want. It's your right. My main issue with you (and all so called AnCaps) is the use of the word Anarchist.

The article below was provided by another so-called AnCap elsewhere in this thread. In the article Rothbard himself concluded that those who think like him should call themselves Nonarchist, not Anarchist.

https://mises.org/library/are-libertarians-anarchists

Jeff Swann 2y ago

I think most people find ways to make themselves the good guy in their own mind while doing shitty things. That's not a Machivellian indifference to morality, it's an effort to twist or reframe reality in order to feel better about themselves because they do care about morality.

I have no plans to stop using the word anarchist or agorist & I suspect there are more ancaps using those words more effectively in the spread of ideas than people on the left at this point. The left stole "liberalism" and transformed it into something completely illiberal. At least "anarchy" in the ancap sense makes sense. I don't really care if people who don't think ownership should exist feel like I'm stealing their word 😏