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I love that title! Would you be willing to share your thesis?

Current framework, still evolving:

"On the canvas of Space and Time, the Universe emerges through Matter as substance, Energy as flow, Physics as rules, and Chemistry as the gateway to complexity. Consciousness bridges physical and abstract reality, generating a new dimensional substrate: Form-Network-Consensus. Upon this foundation, civilization builds the Metaverse through four systems: Capital as the velocity that transforms stock into work; Information as verification establishing what is true; Innovation as generation building what is new; Trust as coordination enabling collective action.

The Great Filter summons every civilization to a fundamental choice: build forward from verified present positions, or extract value from imagined futures. One path creates wealth through what we can prove and build; the other creates debt by borrowing legitimacy from what we hope or fear. This choice determines whether civilization can sustain itself and all life on the path to the stars."

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Zsubmariner 2d ago 💬 1

Interesting! Thank you. I like that a lot.

Wild wrinkle question: Have you considered that the model might be emannance and not emergence? It strikes me that a lot of the problems modern thinking gets into would be resolved that way, and the ancients almost all saw it that way...

That's been itching at my mind

Chad Lupkes 2d ago 💬 1

I do think the framework can be applied in either direction, and that it's less important which direction is 'correct' as long as we recognize our role in the systems. I've had thoughts that the Big Bang that began what we experience as spacetime could be an emergent level itself, and if we just change the direction it could certainly have emanated from a higher level, thus making the metaverse the next level emanant from the Universe level. I've always had the opinion that there was more to the universe than we know, or can know, I just didn't know how much of my own time I wanted to spend contemplating it, especially since we are at the crossroads of choice on which direction we want our civilization to go.

Zsubmariner 1d ago 💬 1

I don't know... It probably matters which end is up

Chad Lupkes 1d ago 💬 1

Matters to whom, though.

To twist a phrase, "Not your dogma, not your meaning."

Zsubmariner 19h ago 💬 1

That's an interesting flip of the usual metaphysical valence of not your not your.

If it's my truth and your truth, that's no truth at all.

Reality is definite and sensible. Ontological gnostics have a funny way of still looking both ways before they cross the street, I've noticed.

I'm willing to bet you care which way the arrow is going when it comes to your stack 🌽

Chad Lupkes 11h ago

I do, but I also recognize that I don't have the right or the authority to declare one viewpoint or the other as 'correct' for anyone else. The emergence theory that I am comfortable with doesn't negate the importance of emanation in the sense that Gnosticism or various schools of philosophy applied it. I do believe in deity, but not in the sense of entities on high, but through avatars that form along known and predictable patterns across multiple cultures and time periods.