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Leave the baggage out is a great point. So many people feel the need to attach their other ideas to bitcoin. Christianity and being a republican are common annoyances to me. Then to them they no true scotsman people who don't share both because they do.

I'm an atheist and I do post about that sometimes. I don't attach the ideas and demand others make the same connection.

The only exception I tolerate is libertarian, anarchist, and agorist since the nature of bitcoin and the writings of Satoshi both call for reduced government power.

Comte de Sats Germain 6mo ago

Hmm, that might be a hint and I might oughtta take it. I do post about Christianity and bitcoin fairly regularly, but that's not because I'm on team Christianity - Christians have made it quite clear that I am only welcome if I conform to their ideas, which I won't do. The reason I purposely mix the two is that I recognize their intransigence and see it as a desirable trait for the team that actually matters to me, which is bitcoin/liberty. I also see that in Islam, and I occasionally try to make arguments that they would recognize... They probably also would exclude me unless I conform, but it doesn't matter because the bigger picture matters more to me. But my experience so far has been that they speak in a milder and less condemnatory manner than Christians, and I think that's noteworthy. Personally, I think I'm a Christian, but not part of Christianity, if that makes sense. I would not have any problem attending a mosque or synagogue or Buddhist temple or anything. There are no demons there. Only good people.

Mixing Christianity with being Republican is repulsive. They seem unaware that by doing so, they play the role of Antichrist, which is to say, they push people away from God. They create atheists by their willful ignorance. And the next level up, Zionism... What greater proof could there be that they don't understand the Bible? Man I could rant about that... Gotta restrain myself.

Okay... Sorry. I'm sure you hated reading all this religious crap.

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Bill Cypher 6mo ago

I've unfollowed all the people I was talking about. I don't mind you so much because you are thinking. I couldn't take all the posts from people who use their Christianity as a way to absolve themselves of thought or personal responsibility. Watch how many Christian posts have follow or obey or a synonym in them.

There is also a difference between posting about 2 different topics and trying to make them the same thing. Take ham radio as a more absurd example. I post about it but I don't try to hunt for a convoluted logic I can post to argue that satoshi would want us all to do ham radio.

Comte de Sats Germain 6mo ago

🤔 actually, I bet Satoshi does want us all doing ham radio...

Bill Cypher 6mo ago

Christian, anarchist, ham, programmer, and permaculture farmer. Anyone who isn't all of the above isn't a real bitcoiner.

I'm sure there are a couple I missed.

Comte de Sats Germain 6mo ago

Carnivore too

Comte de Sats Germain 6mo ago

That obey thing is pretty close to the heart of the matter, both for my beef with Christians and the OP note here. Obey what? They will answer, "god," but that's being clever and evasive. They mean obey them or their team, and their team is just a convenient proxy for themselves. They are literally Antichrist. Antichrist is such a useful concept... I wish people thought about it more. Its not a specific man. Its you... Not saying you specifically - everyone. I can prove that scripturally, I was just reading the relevant verses like 20 minutes ago. What demands obedience? Ego. Antichrist. Jesus said to some people that their father is below and his is above - this isn't some idolatrous assertion of demon-gods in hell and heaven - there's a higher and lower self in everyone, and its the same self in everyone, and one is death and dies, and one is life and doesn't die. Death / da'at requires obedience and it enslaves yourself with sin, and that enslavement to sin gets externalized, the shadow gets pushed onto others. The Christians demanding obedience have not conquered death, and they are not in Christ.

And they can't read this and understand, because they can't separate the symbol from the idol in their mind. Its a tragedy on a cosmic scale, it really is...

Bill Cypher 6mo ago

I seem to recall verses about a great mass delusion leading everyone to false idols. I don't recall them being taught without explicitly being told that the deluded were outside our church.

The bible is a giant book written over thousands of years. Easy to find an argument for anything you want in there.

Comte de Sats Germain 6mo ago

There's an apocryphal text (I want to say "secret book of john," but not totally sure) that predicted that the earthly church would be replaced by a counterfeit church. Almost all, and possibly all idk, apocryphal texts were written before the NT was put together. Good thing Jesus was never talking about the earthly Church! I walked away from one denomination (they'd throw a fit for being called a denomination) because of that specific self serving misinterpretation. There were other misinterpretations, but that was the last straw.

They **_are_** cults... the denominations, the churches. Atheists are right in calling then such.