That obey thing is pretty close to the heart of the matter, both for my beef with Christians and the OP note here. Obey what? They will answer, "god," but that's being clever and evasive. They mean obey them or their team, and their team is just a convenient proxy for themselves. They are literally Antichrist. Antichrist is such a useful concept... I wish people thought about it more. Its not a specific man. Its you... Not saying you specifically - everyone. I can prove that scripturally, I was just reading the relevant verses like 20 minutes ago. What demands obedience? Ego. Antichrist. Jesus said to some people that their father is below and his is above - this isn't some idolatrous assertion of demon-gods in hell and heaven - there's a higher and lower self in everyone, and its the same self in everyone, and one is death and dies, and one is life and doesn't die. Death / da'at requires obedience and it enslaves yourself with sin, and that enslavement to sin gets externalized, the shadow gets pushed onto others. The Christians demanding obedience have not conquered death, and they are not in Christ.
And they can't read this and understand, because they can't separate the symbol from the idol in their mind. Its a tragedy on a cosmic scale, it really is...
I seem to recall verses about a great mass delusion leading everyone to false idols. I don't recall them being taught without explicitly being told that the deluded were outside our church.
The bible is a giant book written over thousands of years. Easy to find an argument for anything you want in there.
There's an apocryphal text (I want to say "secret book of john," but not totally sure) that predicted that the earthly church would be replaced by a counterfeit church. Almost all, and possibly all idk, apocryphal texts were written before the NT was put together. Good thing Jesus was never talking about the earthly Church! I walked away from one denomination (they'd throw a fit for being called a denomination) because of that specific self serving misinterpretation. There were other misinterpretations, but that was the last straw.
They **_are_** cults... the denominations, the churches. Atheists are right in calling then such.
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