Awesome to see nostr:nprofile1qqsg86qcm7lve6jkkr64z4mt8lfe57jsu8vpty6r2qpk37sgtnxevjcpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsz9rhwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjmcprfmhxue69uhkummnw3ezummjv9hxwetsd9kxctnyv4mqgevlfj debating Gammon again. This time they seemed to be on much closer wave lengths
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He deeply understands problem but found/finds the solution hard to fully grasp until it is built and being used extensively, which many people closer to or building the solutions can already see. I added him to my federation in nostr:npub1uq70uqgas9pyhds2zt57kr9se8rg3s68ztphjnq82ts8rzeknmeql7u0c2 after the call and a bunch of it clicked for him.
Like all of us - letting go of a system enslaving us one finger at a time and then never going back.
That is awesome thanks for the work you do Jeff
Lightning isn't all that broadly understood yet, even if you've followed the news from a distance. Seeing it in action on Nostr really stepped up my ap'reciation of what it means.
Gotta get George on #Nostr and #Fountain.
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Jeffā¦Iām genuinely trying to understand the value of FEDI. I am only seeing one federation and nobody I know has the knowledge on how to create a mint.
Any advice on how to find a more extensive list of mints? Or any advice on how to see the utility of FEDI?
We have a bunch on federations most of which are private. But you can find a list of public federations that you can join here: https://github.com/fedimint/awesome-fedimint
How do I easily create a private mint for my circle of friends and business partners?
Can members of mint A transact with members of mint B?
Hey Bryan, start here: https://support.fedi.xyz/hc/en-us/sections/18214787528082-Federation-Setup
Reach out via the Support mod on the Mods page or at support.fedi.xyz with questions along the way.
Yes, a user of Mint A can send bitcoin to a user of Mint B via Lightning just the same way you would between any two Lightning-enabled wallets.
I have a multisig set up, run a LN node with 50+ channels, a bitcoin node, but doubt I can figure out how to safely start a mintā¦.
I am not trying to be negative, but the FEDI project has been portrayed as āsimpleā
- a āvillage leaderā could easily set up a multisig, fund the mint, and add members
- the everything app for bitcoin
On the contrary, I suspect hardly any ānormalā person has the technical ability to safely run a mint.
I want this project to succeedā¦but, in my humble opinion, it has been over sold and its currently not delivering.
I will watch BTC sessions guidesā¦I want it to work, but I keep hearing things like ābitcoin is already capable of scaling to 8 billion people with current tech.ā
Maybe it will be soon, maybe FEDI helpsā¦I hope soā¦.but that day is not today.
I will keep researching.
Thanks so much for sharing this honest feedback Bryan! Your points are valid and they are definitely not lost on us.
We believe the underlying technology is there and very powerful - but we understand itās not yet simple and easy to use.
This creates an accessibility barrier that requires significant UX improvement to overcome so that Fedimint can scale.
We & others are working tirelessly on this in an effort to make the freedom protocols that Fedi is built on universally accessible.
Thank you for the response. I am pulling for your success. Thank you for building on Bitcoin.
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If youāre technical, you can do it yourself. If not, others like nostr:npub1rxysxnjkhrmqd3ey73dp9n5y5yvyzcs64acc9g0k2epcpwwyya4spvhnp8 are setting up white glove services to help linked below. And yes - members of mint a can transact with mint b - (transacts through lightning) and seamless for users.