If Elons right about the underpopulation problem, how many kids would one need to have per couple to regulate things? Anyone good at math? π₯² itβs not my strong suit π₯Ή
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Only 1 π€―π damn, I was planning on 3/4 π€£π«
No no i am summoning him to Mathβ’οΈ
Damn sleepy, I didnβt know you were good with the numbers π₯
Iβm notttt π€£ gfy nostr:npub1mc20uche0cy599vpl850aschpu7wteundgsnf0msep79lu3fu5aq3r4ptv setting me up for failure ππ€£ 
Oh. I am so bad at math that i thought you were good at math
the only math I know is
6 + 9 + 4 + 2 + 0 = 21
Tbf that math is really gud
itβs a proof Iβve been working on for quite sometime, Iβm hopeful itβll get me sum sort of award 
I know about 69 π
Thought this was dirty till I saw 21 π€ I donβt know this position
You frogs are wilddd
It's best to start now, and count those kids later.
Chop chop, miss!
We will crowdsource a Bitcoin hubby for you!
I will π€£ππ«‘π₯Ή thank you Rex ππ«π«π«π«
Hopefully we get something of quality choices for you my friend!
ππ€£ππ€£π« thank you Rex π₯Ήπ« very kind πxx I reckon itβs best for me to date in London though π«π« would help with baby making when the time came too, less distance to cover π€£π«π«π«π«
This is true. π
Itβs really kind of you to try to help me though ππ₯Ήπ«π«π«ππ I reckon there are London nostriches on here, but they are super anon π«π
It will happen friend. Patience.
π«π«π«π«πππ₯Ή I think so too π«π«
I cant help with the london thing, or the hubby part because a good woman brat you too it π
But come "up north" the scenery is wonderful and the men are freindly salt of the earth types.
Im sure you'd find someone to keep you warm at night...π
This is very kind π«π«π«π₯Ή isnβt up north filled with families and married couples though? If I canβt find someone in London Iβm more odd than I thought ππ€£π« Iβd have no chance. But I will keep it in mind though π―π«π«
The average required to maintain a population is roughly ~2.1ish children. Some families will have 1, some more than 2, some without any. But once the average drops below a this, the population begins to age rapidly
Damn π«π maybe Iβll have 5
One of my sisters has 5 kids, you would be surprised how automated parenting becomes after you have the second child. The most the merrier I guess π
We'll on average every couple of 2 should have 2 children that give birth themselves.
That seems fair, 2 is so little though π€ but fair
I donβt think itβs the underpopulation problem. The problem is the poor redistribution of resources, land and wealth. It would be nicer to have more of everything among us today, and not to have more people with fewer resources.
But itβs Elon in X.
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Nah I get this, but canβt both be a problem? π₯Ή we need better leadership and more sex π«
Okay π«
We need more sex.
We need better leaders.
But we also need a better distribution of the land and its resources. Donβt overpopulate it more in the same places.
Elon speaks then he thinks, then he regrets and opens his mouth again without much argument.He is perfect for X. π
I agree, we do, and governments should foresee things like this. Theyβre too slow with AI safely, now theyβre too slow with this π
He might be telling us to fix one problem before the other is fixed but at least heβs warning us π₯Ή I mean we could do nothing and just let the population age and die out sooner, but thatβs a bit grim. I suppose itβs up to the leaders to catch up - again π
ππ€£π I dunno, I like unfiltered comments ππ« those are the best π₯
You are my type π
You have to look for 1000 solutions to 1 problem.
I think Iβll have to do more of my part to repopulate the earth π
Iβll tell you something. On the side of the earth where I live, governments are quite slow in everything. I donβt expect anything from them, ever.
The bad thing, as a state society puts them at the forefront as leaders but we are a rare species, we always put at least fit at the front.
Ok. We have a genuine lady who is concerned about the population of the world.
She's funny.
She's brilliant.
She's cute.
She's got that sexy mind.
AND
She's a #Bitcoiner
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If Elons right about the underpopulation problem, how many kids would one need to have per couple to regulate things? Anyone good at math? π₯² itβs not my strong suit π₯Ή
#asknostr
Hereβs how I think about it:
If a couple has two kids, they only replace themselves after they die.
If they have three, there is a βprofitβ of one. Population wise, this would likely be canceled out by couples having no or one child, but itβs still growth in the context of that nuclear family. Thatβs my baseline goal as far as number of kids.
I was an only child so my stretch goal is four or more if I can. I probably wonβt be able to have more than three, though. Iβm not too tore up about it; Iβm more focused on enjoying and doing the best for whatever number of children Iβm blessed with.
This is beautiful Eryn π«π«π and totally agree xx will be grateful if I can even get one baby π« also the process will be really fun ππ«
Probably at least 3 per couple
I like three π₯Ή in case 2 fight thereβs a third one to keep the peace π«
Ealon is a scam, he seems to be just another technocrat but way smarther than Swaps and his cronies.
There is no "right number of people" he is just priming us to think that someone should regulat such things, the same argument that malthusians have but the other way around.
The miracle of free market as a system to coordinate resources is that it will adjust to whatever situation we face, resources will be economized when and where needed, nobody needs to micro-manage how much people lives whether for shrinking that number or to push it upwards.
Something that is usually misinterpreted is the retirement system that is actually a ponzi that needs more and more people entering the pyramid scheme to delai its collapse, that is not an issue of having a low number of people, but an issue of the system itself that is basically an intergenerational scam
But isnβt it possibly that the world has more than one issue? π₯Ήπ« I see your point, but I see his too.
The numbers he mentioned are apparently recorded numbers heβs monitored, and I canβt imagine why he would lie. He has this need to save the world, a superman complex. Thatβs not so bad. I mean he lives what he preaches and heβs had 11 kids I think.
I like him cos even though he can be mean and we wonβt always agree with his methods, heβs honest - what you see is what you get. Also heβs pretty darn funny π«
I think he don't want to save te world, I believed that at some point and didn't wanted to think about the opposite, but when I see what he does with a bit of suspicious... hmm I don't like what I see
He is taking steps towards every future way of building a dystopic panopticon, owning social media, owning internet infrastructure, owning ICBMs, owning human-machine interface with neuralink...
When I see what other influential people does I trust them more, for example Jack supported nostr from almost day one, no questions asked, no strings attached (AFAIK). The same with Bitcoin. Why isn't Ealon doing that? Why choosing to place himselv in such strategic position?
Nah I get this π« never a bad thing to ask why and be on guard, totally get that and agree.
I dunno, to me he seems like a guy that doesnβt think we can do it on our own. Kind of like when a person tells you to get out of the kitchen and theyβll do it themselves (this has happened to me π).
And I do appreciate what jacks done for nostr too, itβs very kind of him. I donβt think just cos Jack is kind that Elon must be bad cos he has other interests π₯Ή I wish he would join with nostr but heβs got his own thing going. Who knows, he might join one day.
Maybe he doesnβt think anyone can do it as well as him - arrogant, yes, controlling, yes, knows what heβs talking about, yep π₯Ή
I like having someone who knows what theyβre doing in charge of things. I suppose thereβs always a chance he could be up to something, but Iβd be surprised. Heβs the only one of those silicon valley guys Iβve seen cry. Iβve barely seen the men in my family cry, but this leader cries in front of the world. Hard to explain, but I think heβs being genuine π« I could be totally wrong though ππ½
Thanks for your thoghts on this and the detailed answer! I hope you are right, I believe that even though many people are rotten to the core there are still heroes that does the right thing in the face of a dark future, the Snowdens, the Assanges, the Satoshis, and hopefully Ealon
Thankyou for your thoughts too βΊοΈ was fun debating with you. I hope too π«ππ½
I think he is funny, but I also thing that hi is not showing us what is he up to.
I don't say you change your mind about him, becaus of course I can be wrong, but I do think is wise to be a bit wary about his intentions.
It may be tha case that he is legit but still something is off for me...
I agree π―π« I am always weary ππ½ and I totally get why you are too.
Also I agree I wish Elon would help promote Bitcoin, but maybe he just wants to let the chips fall where they may and see what happens π€ - heβs probably just having a laugh with doge coin π you can buy Tesla/ space X merch with it π heβs kind of a plonker sometimes ππ€£
What did he say?
It was in a YouTube video where he discussed quite a few things but one of which was a population problem.
He said he was looking at the numbers and thereβs a lot of countries that are underpopulated and the numbers arenβt getting any better π₯Ή
I have 3 kids. Two boys and a girl. Thatβs a great number. At least for us π I have no idea how many are enough
3 is wonderful π₯Ή i want three too π« I reckon youβve got the magic number already lovely π«π
They are wonderful. Do you know what's funny? When I was young (so very young π€£), I didn't really want kids. And then I wasn't even 30 and already had my three sweeties π«π
You are still young lovely π«π aw it was meant to be π₯Ή I always thought Iβd have my kids before 30, but Iβll be thirty in less than 2 years so Iβm thinking early thirties ππ«π
You are so sweet π« I am sure you will be a great mom. No matter when it will be π you are such a loving person that you can even feel it here on a social media platform (okay, nostr is not just a social media platform) without ever having met you. I often think about my first time as a mom these days. I was so young... and naive π I read everything about pregnancy, birth and the first time with baby. I was prepared (or so I thought π). I had planned everything. Then my son came...and with him came real life π«£π€£
This is so unbelievably kind, means more than you know π₯Ήπ«β₯οΈ thank you Luna π«π«π«
I can tell youβre a wonderful mum π«π«π«π«ππ
This makes me feel better π₯Ήππ« I worry that I wonβt be prepared when the day finally comes. I have read not a single baby book πππ« I bet you were brilliant lovely π« did you find the books helpful at all? Or were they a waste of time?
Personal experience says books are great for unrealistic expectations about motherhood π. But it's great to get perspective. Nothing prepares you for the rollercoaster emotions of being a mom, it is the best when everyone is happy and healthy and so awful when you can't take away what it is that's hurting your child. Gut instinct is usually right, nature definitely finds a way. When it's time, you'll be a great parent, the concern you're feeling now is part of it π.
My wonderful friend lent us several books I didnβt crack π I learned most of the things about pregnancy and parenting which I learned before the birth from the internet or from people I know.
Thatβs not to say books arenβt useful! Just donβt feel like you will fail if you donβt read one.
Did the books help me π€? Yes and no. In any case, reading them has given me a lot to think about. Also what kind of birth I wanted (I always gave birth on an outpatient basis), as far as nutrition was concerned (I didn't want industrial baby food). But it was also difficult to deal with the fact that many things turned out quite differently than I had imagined. So books gave me an idea and a sense of direction, but in the end, real life was completely different. Unfortunately, my family (parents and siblings) lived very far away from me at the time, so the first few months were pretty tough. I was overwhelmed. But that was okay. My son and I did it together and learned from each other.
You should aim for minimum 4. Ideally 6-8.
Find a man that have the same goals and that will want you to be a full time mom.