I spoke with nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj about his reasoning to remove GiftWrapped messages from eden.nostr.land. It's not that he doesn't want users to have private conversations and it's not that he's censoring content. It's that he doesn't want to unknowingly store images on his relay.

I've said since the beginning that NIP-95 is a great solution for decentralizing our images, however I've also said that it's bad form to make relay operators store binary data when they didn't originally intend to do so. Relay operators should have a choice in that matter as it will drastically increase their operating costs. With GiftWrapped messages, relay operators could technically store binary data, since they have no clue what type of content they're storing. The message could be a really long message or small image.

GiftWrapping is more than DMs.

I get it now.

This is why we have these discussions to hash things out and to learn. This is how the protocol grows and we end up reaching consensus on how to move forward for all to benefit.

I'll be adding eden back to my relay list... for now 😉

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100% that makes sense.

How do other private messaging apps get away with hosting encrypted images? Are they just lawyered up enough to point to the fine print?

This is the fun part of an open system. If it was a closed system, the decision could be made to implement giftwraps as long as image hosting was not implemented but that’s just not possible to do here. Both can and will happen and maybe the way nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj is handling it by saying no at the relay makes sense.

probably a mix of lawyers and content reporting.

im just glad eden.nostr.land is working again as i thought we all got rugged but i guess it was maintenance