A deeper more technical breakdown of the relays, but in plain english, to clarify what the settings in the clients cause to play out with your posts. Can get confusing for new folks when it comes to broadcasting notes to relays, retrieving notes from relays, relays talking to relays, rebroadcasting to relays, relays that store notes, how to connect to your own relay on Umbrel and Start9 for archiving, etc. it’s clear that they are relays, but anyone not used to commandlines and server administration will be a deer in headlights when it comes to understanding the relay interplay.
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do you want more than than what these are already offering?
RELAYS - nostr:note18pdj7lteu4vd58s8ecl54sxd8suqzhqxkyjztflt50jl099eh90s6vdwks
RELAYS PART DUEX - OUTBOX - nostr:note1ghlrrxadh8eumvjj5pgankvalkc2egrk352e3y5erukt5p3fe67syektae
I enjoyed those, and also enjoyed the linked articles and illustrations. Maybe sharing where I got hung up is easiest to convey what I lack(ed).
In the nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg and nostr:npub1pu3vqm4vzqpxsnhuc684dp2qaq6z69sf65yte4p39spcucv5lzmqswtfch and nostr:npub1n0stur7q092gyverzc2wfc00e8egkrdnnqq3alhv7p072u89m5es5mk6h0 and nostr:npub18m76awca3y37hkvuneavuw6pjj4525fw90necxmadrvjg0sdy6qsngq955 clients there’s a single relay list. In nostr:npub1wyuh3scfgzqmxn709a2fzuemps389rxnk7nfgege6s847zze3tuqfl87ez on my nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll there are two relay lists. Unclear why. This makes me think there’s something I don’t understand about relays and how my client may browse them based on my settings and how I am to find the content and users I would enjoy connecting with if there can be pockets of relays that coalesce but segregate organically. The relays I set in my iOS client are DNS based friendly names, but shouldn’t TOR relays ( like my nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll ) be able to be used too? It’s already ws:// over TOR, must I really install a self signed cert to go full wss:// to allow mainstream clients to use it? nostr:npub1wyuh3scfgzqmxn709a2fzuemps389rxnk7nfgege6s847zze3tuqfl87ez uses it fine off-LAN over Tor. and about my relay, if I want my relay to respect delete requests or not, store my notes and archive notes of follows, or some other relay task, how are configurations made? Is that command line activity? a config file? Would love to have it be easy to turn my nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll into my own content archive/backup, and even my own hosted solo relay if I felt inclined. Didn’t dive into the command line enough to learn if this is possible or maybe it’s not a good approach? But why? Do relays still gossip to other relays to have my content found by searchers, or is that not a thing and it’s just outbox model now?
There are some questions I’ve had and, in some cases, still have. Maybe it stirs some ideas for you.
some clients use their own relays lists. some clients use your relay lists. and some clients have migrated to a new type of relay list that uses outbox and inbox style relays. it's a bit confusing.
you should be able to enter a TOR relay, but again this is probably client specific. it's possible not all clients allow for TOR.
deletes should just work, depending if your relay supports them. but remember with deletes, you're not just deleting off of your own personal relay, you'd need to delete off of potentially thousands of relays, which is somewhat impossible. i'd say you could delete off of 99.99% though.
what relay software are you using on your Start9? what's the application called? isn't it the nostr-rs-relay?
relays do not gossip to one another. it's kind of a bad name for them to be honest. they do not in fact relay to one another. never have. now, some relays DO actually have a similar function. such as the blastr relay software. it blasts or sends your notes send to it to other relays. the vast majority of relays do not do this.
i recommend running the #haven relay. it's fairly easy and can be ran in a set it and forget it mode. it uses outbox/inbox and allows for deletes which can be done through your client if your client supports them.
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