Starting to think about my Christmas wish list... So far I got:
1. Sats
2. 9 mm pistol
3. Meshtastic node
Any hand gun recommendations for a first timer?
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Depends on use case. Go small for concealed carry, go big for home defense. I love my sig p238, micro 9’s have a bit more stopping power tho. Full size? Glocks are hard to beat. My two sats anyways.
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I'm in Cali so I dunno if I'd want to go through the process to get CC and was definitely thinking for home defense. I'm a larger human being so maybe I go full size? 🤔
Go big, stay home. I’d agree with that. My use case for my pistol at home would be to use it to get to the real stopping power of a shotgun or AR.
Maybe go to the range and talk to them. You may be able to try some out to help you decide
Appreciate the advice
Glock 19 - Tried and true. No end to available accessories. Some folks don't like the blocky grip, grip angle, or stock sights.
Sig P320 - Similar size to the Glock 19, but a bit more natural grip angle and less blocky.
Smith & Wesson M&P Compact 2.0. Another option in the same vein.
All of these are striker-fire, compact 9mm handguns that are very reliable.
The compact size is ideal, in my opinion. Small enough it can still be carried concealed, but large enough to be comfortable to shoot.
If you need something a bit more concealable, I would recommend the Sig P365.
Appreciate the recs bro...I'll be looking into them
curious to know your opinion on the Sig P226 and CZ75, i've heard they are quite reliable...
Can't go wrong with either, if you want a full-size, hammer-fired.
I am just partial to the compact and striker-fired handguns.
CZ-75 all day long. Buy a CZ Kadet (slide/barrel for .22) and it fits on your cz75 frame. I have one that will shoot 2” 5 shot groups at 25 yds (iron sights). The cz-75 is just as accurate with the 9mm barrel.
If you want to REALLY learn to shoot, buy a case of .22 ammo and practice all the fundamentals before going to a centerfire handgun. You will learn them much better and you will be able to shoot everything from .22s to .475 linebaugh better having done the PoW
yeah, overall that was the impression i got about the quality of the weapon... possibly one of the best pistols ever made
swiss = clocks and rifles; czech = pistols
the ones you talked about i've heard good things about, i wouldn't have a clue about why i should choose a striker over a hammer... maybe safety and ease of concealment?
anyway, i've barely fired guns in my life, before i even started to really take an interest in it, 1996 port arthur and they made it too complicated and expensive for my poor ass to get into it... i did the safety course, and then got myself into legal trouble and that was that, even though it was a totally non-violent matter and i even confessed my way into the problem so they wouldn't turn my mother's place upside down playing gangster theatre
Striker vs hammer:
Striker fired is the current flavor du jour because the trigger pull is the same for every shot (big plus for most people), and it’s cheaper to manufacture. Can safely be carried cocked without a mechanical safety. Glock and most current plastic duty pistols.
Hammer fired (CZ-75, Beretta 92/M9, 1911). For all trigger pulls to be the same it needs to be carried cocked, and a manual safety is required. DA/SA pistols can be carried hammer down and safety off - but the first trigger pull will be very different than subsequent ones. That said, the single action trigger pull on a hammer gun is far superior to a striker pistol.
Strikers have gotten better over the years, and they are certainly good enough for self-defense, but for precision shooting there is no comparison. Hammer guns are overall more reliable, because they hit the primer with more energy (striker has less mass). With quality ammo it’s not an issue with striker pistols, but ammo with unusually hard primers or high performance, high pressure cartridges that use small rifle primers (9x23 Winchester) will always be hammer fired guns.
Striker guns like the Glock are easier to master with far less training, which is why police and military have adopted them in the last few decades. Hammer guns, once mastered, can outperform especially in accurate shooting at longer ranges - but police and military don’t have the budget to train to that extent for the grunts, who are going to be using a rifle anyway. A civilian however is probably not going to have a rifle just going to town in daily life, so having the capability to make longer shots, 25-50 yds, is not unnecessary in my opinion.
yeah, i'm very inclined to agree with the benefit of long range accuracy... looking forward to getting into it, hopefully soon
And hammer fired pistols: not only precision long range shots, but also close range precision shooting like Mozambique drills and headshots.
CZ-85 combat (similar to the 75 but no firing pin block) fitted with CZ Kadet .22 barrel. 10 shots at 25 yds, Federal Automatch (disregard the larger caliber holes, I was sighting in another rifle)
With handguns, the most overlooked factor is fit and ergonomics. What size are your hands? Some pistols are more customizable than others as far as grip size. Borrow or rent some at the range to see what you like.
What are you doing with it? Will you be carrying it every day, learning to shoot, shooting IDPA…all these play a role.
If you are just starting, and you want to learn to shoot better than 99% of police officers, learn with a .22 (that’s my advice, as a firearms instructor and life long pew pew enthusiast)
I recommend any quality .22 pistol (or revolver) and a case of ammo (5,000 rds) The CZ, S&W, Colt, Ruger, Walther, etc.
Man, I do love revolvers too. Best way to learn trigger control is to learn to shoot a double action revolver.
Used guns are almost always as good as new, for 20% cheaper. The plastic guns like Glocks will be 30%+ cheaper used.
If you have little, or no, experience shooting handguns go take a basic pistol course from an instructor who can provide a handgun for the class so you can learn fundamentals. If you don't have a good grasp of fundamentals you can't make good decisions about what does and doesn't fit regarding any specific handgun.
When you have a decent grounding in what matters, go to a range and try multiple guns. Be prepared to spend some money. Not a ton, but some. Shoot a magazine or two through each gun. Shoot slowly, purposefully, observantly. You can shoot a couple of 2- or 3-shot, rapid-fire strings if you want but do not waste time/money turning dollars into noise doing mag dumps. Pay attention to the following:
- Does your finger fall naturally and correctly on the trigger when the gun is properly positioned in your hand? Do you have too much or two little finger on the trigger? Will you be able to execute a smooth, straight-back press if the trigger, or will your hand/finger position cause you to move the gun when firing?
- Notice where the gun aims with your natural grip. Does it point naturally toward the target or is it off to the right or left? Can you make small adjustments to your grip to correct this, or does it require significant change?
- Take a solid firing grip with the dominant hand, just like you will when firing. Hold the gun so the magazine will fall straight to the ground. Press the magazine release (by whatever means you want or normally use). D9es the magazine drop freely, of does the palm of your hand interfere and prevent the magazine from falling?
- Take a solid firing grip with the dominant hand. Look at the grip panel space allowed for you non-dominant hand. Is there plenty of surface area for your non-dominant palm to gain purchase? Place your non-dominant hand into the two-handed grip. Can you get the palm solidly on the grip panel?
- Consider what you want to do with the pistol. Remember the following compromises everyone makes;
- less mass = higher felt recoil
- shorter barrel/sight radius = greater difficulty staying on target
If you intend to practice regularly, you will want something which is not unduly painful to shoot and which does not wear you out after 25 rds.
There are no right or wrong answers for the above, just what works for you. But if you take the time to do these things you will avoid what most people do - spending $400-$600 on a gun they don't really like very much.
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You should go with a .22LR revolver. Perfect to get used to training with (unless you have shot before) and super cheap ammo.
You can pick up a Heritage Rough Rider for under 100$ or Ruger Wrangler for about 200$.
Guns are like tattoos. You go decades without them, then get one and all of a sudden feel the urge to get more 😂
Will also be checking this out, appreciate the rec
