Nostr Web Client

OK so, first try with nostr:

I'm using "gossip" (github.com/mikedilger/gossip) because it's open source, and it's a program that runs on your computer. Which is the idea of this whole decentralization thing right?

But... I don't know if anyone is following me, I can't find anything about that. I posted a few days ago and never saw any replies, but then looked on iris.to and there *were* a bunch of replies.

Does anyone know if there are docs about how to use gossip? Using a common word for the name of the software makes it pretty search-resistant, and in the docs/ folder of the repo there's not really anything about how to use it.

Maybe it's some setting like "fetch replies to notes you posted" that I need to enable. And also should probably be enabled by default. Because otherwise can't really talk to people on this :)

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago 💬 2

#gossip is simply the only sorta decent desktop app for nostr... i've resigned myself to using coracle and nostrudel because they help me do relay dev and they work pretty good mostly

gossip is overly complex IMO, hard to use, i recommend https://coracle.social to get a really nice intro to this protocol... https://nostrudel.ninja is a more geeky client that lets you poke at lots of things (inside the other stuff section on the sidebar)

also, hi! you are the co-inventor of the Lightning protocol, welcome!

i just want to say, isn't source routing a bitch... the problem of nodes learning the state of the paths on the network... but there's no obvious path routing solution for atomic, anonymous transfers of balance state between nodes to route payments, so it had to be source routed

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e5cece49... 1y ago 💬 4

Thanks!

Yeah I need to learn more about how this works, and I'll try to stick to the desktop / 'self-hosted' stuff if I can.

Right now what seems to work is using a website like iris.to to find replies, then copying the event ID into gossip. With the event ID gossip finds posts and I can reply (like this!)

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

you just need to figure out the relay configuration

it's too obfuscated for me... gossip is written in Rust so i'm not touching it, and i don't understand how other people figure out how to get it working, it seriously is a several hour episode the one time i got it sorta working, i personally feel that people who use languages like C++ and Rust have their models of reality warped in a way that is difficult for primitive natural minds to decode the output from

cloud fodder 1y ago

gossip is one of the hardest clients to onboard onto.. it starts to work a lot better as you start following others and also, setup a relay list that includes some mega relays to read from so it can find more replies. the mega clients dont play nice with outbox so people's replies will go to those client run relays instead of the relays you wanted them to reply on. (damus, primal, ..)

fiatjaf 1y ago

Thank you for doing computers the right way and running desktop programs. I'd say you have to stare and hover around the "My Relays" page on Gossip and all its dozens of configurations before it starts to work, but I don't know how it sets up things for you when you first create a keypair through it, maybe it just doesn't set up any relays at all by default? nostr:npub1hlq93jdtkfg29a8s7fqzzzh82q3pkc20rxucwt4geh6e56wk3y2qxdz5wg nostr:npub1acg6thl5psv62405rljzkj8spesceyfz2c32udakc2ak0dmvfeyse9p35c nostr:npub10000003zmk89narqpczy4ff6rnuht2wu05na7kpnh3mak7z2tqzsv8vwqk

Try adding relay.damus.io and nos.lol both as read/write/outbox/inbox just to see if it starts to show at least something, then you can tweak it later.

Oh, and set purplepag.es and relay.nos.social as "discover".

Mike Dilger ☑️ 1y ago 💬 1

In every note there are some buttons on the upper left. One of them is a circled dot. That takes you to the thread view. This shows that note in context of a thread, with it's replies and ancestors. The equals symbol is a menu of things, each with a popup submenu. The eye, when hovered, shows the relays that the event was downloaded from.

There are buttons at the bottom of events too. The chat bubble lets you reply. The refresh arrow lets you repost. The ellipsis lets you quote. The lightning bolt lets you zap a lightning payment to the author. And the heart lets you react with an emoji.

nix 1y ago 💬 1

... wenn I react with an emoji, what means the ""x"+"Y" beside the emoji ?

Mike Dilger ☑️ 1y ago 💬 1

These count the reactions of other people. The left number is the number of upvotes ("+"), and the right number is the number of emojis (you can hover to see the count of each emoji).

nix 1y ago

Hi ,

... ok thanks for answer . Will check it out..