I think it’s bullshit that Trump gets 34 felonies and that is all everyone wants to talk about. I get 34 felonies and no one cares…
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The court cared, they had to open the building that day.
He is the only former US President to become a felon. It's kind of a big deal.
Donald Trump is currently facing three other criminal cases in addition to the conviction in New York. It is unfortunate that his recent felony conviction will likely be the only outcome we will see before the election.
**Georgia election interference case:**
A Fulton County grand jury indicted Trump and 18 allies in August 2023 in a sprawling racketeering case stemming from an alleged scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in Georgia.
**The documents case:**
In a case brought in federal court in South Florida, Trump is charged with 40 counts stemming from his alleged mishandling of sensitive government records after leaving the White House and efforts to obstruct the Justice Department's investigation. Two others were charged alongside Trump, his aide Walt Nauta and Mar-a-Lago property manager Carlos de Oliveira.
**The 2020 election:**
The second federal prosecution brought by Smith, this one in Washington, D.C., involves Trump's alleged plot to subvert the transfer of power after the 2020 presidential election. He was charged with four counts in August 2023.
Nixon got a pass
Nixon had the sense to resign before impeachment. DT has been twice impeached (another first). And yes, Tricky Dick got a pardon by Ford. Lucky boy.
Indeed, he officially became one, but I'm certain not the only one to 'be one'.
Not really, the current one is obviously a pedophile, Obama started more wars without congressional approval than any other & even bombed a US citizen, Bush helped make 9/11 happen so that they could pass the patriot act & justify attacking a bunch of middle eastern countries where oil was no longer trading for dollars, Clinton was a brutal rapist & pedophile, Bush Sr helped execute Kennedy, so going after a political opponent for an accounting issue during an election year, way after the accounting "crime" itself is of any relevance is actually the bigger deal. The US has basically gone full banana republic.
Subjective leading statements aside: Every President is a temporary spokesperson for the ruling class. Choose your flavor, it matters less that the political rhetoric suggests during election season. That's largely a psyop.
If anything, Trump's conviction shows just how badly you have to mess up to face legal consequences as a former US president. It also raises a lot of questions about how a former president can even be convicted. By law, they must have Secret Service accompaniment everywhere they go. Does this include jail? Who knows—it's mostly uncharted territory.
This doesn't mean a former president can't or shouldn't be held accountable for crimes, or that they are somehow above the law. However, conversely, the Kennedy assassination underscores the potential consequences of a President defying orders.
The fact that other politicians have gotten away with crimes or haven't been caught doesn't make them immune to prosecution. The Presidential office is supposed to be a representation of the people. If it is not, we have the constitutional right to remove them from office and/or hold them accountable for any crimes against humanity.
Trump committed the crime. He is a convicted felon. Period. This isn't his first run-in with the law. Trump has a long history of criminal activity before, during, and after his presidency.
Trump is the only former US President to be impeached twice and become a convicted felon. This sets an important precedent.
He also will have his days in court for the three other ongoing criminal trials he faces. This is just the beginning. He thought he was above the law. He is not.
You do realize President Trump's plan is to go to jail. We have wanted him to go to jail and testify for over 6 years now.
Once a suit is brought against you, they are in the same cage as you. It's fun to draw them in when you are the holder of the of the critical information to later find out you will be testifying as the expert witness.
Imagine if you will, you purchased a product that the government deemed as a hacking device and national security threat. Would you not have fun playing with them with your computer security knowledge? It's fun.
He's baiting them in.
I fucking hate being in the position of defending Trump, I think he is a piece of shit clown...
But if you can't see that the accusations, using "novel legal theory" & efforts to stretch what might be a misdemeanor into something more serious, in an election year long after the supposed crimes even took place, you are delusional.
Every govt is & always has been a purely a criminal organization, but we are now reaching a stage where they no longer feel the need to even hide it.
Who is the victim of Trump's "crime"?
"No victim, no crime" is a sound moral principle for the political organization of a healthy society.
Trump is in a different category to the Clintons, Obama or Bush, who are actual criminals with actual victims to account for.
The voters are the victims. No one cares if you pay off your mistress. Hiding it from coming out before the election by writing it off as a business expense in order to not have to report it to campaign finance is a crime.
The funny thing is he could have created reasonable doubt in the jury if he said that he only did it to hide it from his wife. Then it would have been a misdemeanor accounting violation. Instead he insisted on using the cover story in court that he didn’t know the woman, never had sex with her, and didn’t know anything about the money. No one was believing that.
"The public" and other generic collectives are not a "victim". Victims of real crimes have names and specific grievances resulting directly from a specific action.
Before Trump we actually considered a Junta and ran drills under Jade Helm. We knew there would be many civilian losses and possible loss of Command and Control. We chose a different route but knew it would be long.
Its a big deal, but not the whole deal. Im sure George Washington was labeled a criminal too. Of course Trump is no Washington, but just because your rivals attack you does not tell the whole story.
On the other side, why did the democrats stay with biden?