I'm new to Nostr. Can someone explain all the bitcoin hype that is on here? Are people trying to hype it to pump their holdings a-la-pyramid scheme? I don't get it. I feel like Ben on Parks & Rec not understanding what the big deal with Li'l Sebastian is and I just want to be enlightened. #introductions
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Welcome!
It's definitely not not that. There's always gonna be that group that is only out for themselves. But there's a lot of people that seem to genuinely believe it leads to a better timeline. If you want an excellent, if lengthy, introduction on Bitcoins value, I recommend nostr:nprofile1qqsxu35yyt0mwjjh8pcz4zprhxegz69t4wr9t74vk6zne58wzh0waycpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qg4waehxw309ahx7um5wghx77r5wghxgetk9uq3samnwvaz7tmxd9k8getj9ehx7um5wgh8w6twv5hsj7hdd2's writings here: https://21-ways.com/
You'll see it almost everywhere here.
Please don't let this be the reason you don't give nostr a full chance though.
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I’m going to give it the old college try. I’m seeing some advice from folks on how to find the kinds of conversations I’m interested in joining so we will see how that goes. Thanks for the reply.
Np. Gunna give ya a follow too. Looking forward to some content that's not about bitcoin in my feed!
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What are ya into?
Fill out your bio with a bit of info about what you like, search for and follow # of those things.
It's just that Bitcoiners built this place. Bitcoiners have been focused on trying to build alternatives for basically all the corrupt legacy world. Money is the most important piece of that.
If it seems weird now, then I'd just encourage you to dig in a little bit and learn. It's not what you think it is...
Either way, welcome to #nostr 👏
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I may be interested in learning more about bitcoin and crypto, but that may be because I’m a man. Statically, I’m more likely to be interested in learning more about it than women, who tend find the subject to be off-putting. I think we need all kinds of voices and perspectives reflected on any platform that we hope to become a true public square with protected free speech. I’m perhaps a little worried that groups of people who just aren’t interested in btc, or knowing how the sausage is made on nostr might come here and quickly bounce out when they mistakenly take the platform to be for crypto heads only. I like the idea of this platform in principle but I’m not seeing a lot of the types of voices I enjoy seeing on other similar centralized platforms. Maybe we need some big celebrity endorsements over here? Sad to see so many people flooding to Bluesky and not here. Do those kinds of people like safe bubbles and censorship? I hope not. Maybe centralized is just more turnkey or easy to understand for someone coming from twitter/x?
Nostr needs more varying conversations and opinions. It's too narrow now, but that's only because someone has to be first. Hopefully the conversations grow and expand to include everything and everyone. You're just early. Welcome.
This is natural evolution of all protocols, so it’s nothing to be concerned with in the long term, imo. Go back to Usenet: nothing but data hoarding nerds. Back to TCP/IP, nothing but protocols devs. Back to RSS, IRC, etc it is always the same story. In this case it’s just that the same community who were first to #Bitcoin (not crypto, btw, that’s a common misunderstanding, long story) were also the most motivated to build a better, censorship resistant means to share and communicate.
The expansion of content and conversation will happen naturally, it just requires the first stage of those willing to take the risk, and post the content that others will want while the network for those things is still small.
There is a bigger hurdle, but also far greater benefit to being early in the network. So post whatever you are interested in and you might make a lot more of a difference than you might think. 🫡
How does nostr control for bots?
Nothing at the protocol layer. Just handled by relays, users, and clients with varied approaches. I suspect the best long term approach will be web-of-trust related. But you can report them to relays and they will ban or limit certain types of access. Some relays share how they treat things like that or specifically use WoT as their filter and you can add those relays, etc.
Bunch of different options, probably standards will emerge with enough time and after we learn from a few really annoying bot attacks. Only had one or two significant ones so far.
Welcome to Nostr. There are a lot of people here enthusiastic about the breakthrough that Bitcoin is, but they aren’t promoting it as a Ponzi scheme or short-term batch of hype. Much of the dialog about Btc is technical or philosophical - and if it isn’t interesting to you, it’s easy to ignore.
There are a lot of other creative and smart people hear who don’t talk or write about Bitcoin - artists, musicians, poets, farmers, ranchers, ham radio folks, coders, crusaders of various types, cooks and foodies, romantics, dancers, and maybe even some assholes and idiots. There’s free speech and fun along with serious planning, dreaming, and building.
Welcome again!
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. Already better than the boundless ocean of silence my posts on x elicit. I’ll try my luck at finding those voices that interest me.
Welcome aboard. All the people here have pet money, much like how normal people have cats. It’s ok though, most of them are nice enough.
Currency is merely a representation of labor and value. It is a human fiction. This is what bitcoin is. People place labor into BTC and value it so it is valuable. If Bitcoin was on mars it would have no value as there are no humans.
Through Bitcoin we can recapture the Canadian Oil fields. Instead of sending all the profits upstream to a foreign nation that will not spend the money in our country we can build our own local indigenous economy to benefit all!