Well I’ll give you what I’m faced with right now in setting up my account…

I created it all via Damus client

I entered a username REALjasonansley

But see a Nostr addres field too

When I research that, it seems the free nostr verification services want me to input my username which I already have entered in Damus

So I’m confused

Also confused about where I read in https://nostr.how/en/guides/get-verified that “Everything before the @ symbol (“bob”, in our example). This must match the value of the name field in your Nostr profile.”

Which my name field is different yet and has some branding built into…

Not sure how to reconcile these three seeming different thing that seem to have to match exactly…

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Okay, so I'm not exactly sure how it's displayed in Damus. I am on Android. But on Amethyst, it looks like this.

https://files.sovbit.host/media/44dc1c2db9c3fbd7bee9257eceb52be3cf8c40baf7b63f46e56b58a131c74f0b/42aa3154970bf97be808fc81fd014f3051461d8ade37bb29fad6aa7d942a8866.webp

Your display name is arbitrary. It can be whatever you want, and I can see that you have a relatively long display name, which is fine. Nip-05 is It's just an extra verification that says you are who you say you are. If in the example you choose Bob@nosterplebs.com In the nostr address feild in damus you would put Bob@nostrplebs.com there and your should be good to go. Your display name does *not* need to mach your nostr address.

And as far as finding content, hashtags are one of the better options right now. A lot of hashtags have "str" at the end of them. Bookstr, hikestr, foodstr ect.. Because people cheeky like that.

Awesome good insight!

nostr:npub1gnwpctdec0aa00hfy4lvadftu08ccs9677mr73h9ddv2zvw8fu9smmerrq so this is what I see for Damus settings (expand image to see the Nostr address field)

1. How does the username field come into use?

2. In a perfect world I’d like the Nostr address to be branded…such as with my domain name (seems I could do that but I don’t want to mess with setting up json files right now)

So will my nostr address just be whateveriwant@whateververiciationservice.ichoose ? 🤪 and what the domain is doesn’t matter?

Yup. The best nostr address is one from your own domain. But if you're not technical, or dont wanna set it up on your server then free services work just fine.

I'm honestly not sure what the username deal is with Damus. Im not sure who to tag aout that

I believe Damus will show both your name and your username, unless they’re identical, in which case maybe just one. Maybe nostr:npub1zafcms4xya5ap9zr7xxr0jlrtrattwlesytn2s42030lzu0dwlzqpd26k5 can clarify?

All good.

I went with verified-Nostr so just waiting for it to populate to see how it appears.

So the username is pretty flexible: it can be anything, and there’s no restriction on multiple people having the same own. It’s like a display name, for clients to show your “handle” in a sense, even though it can look a little different in different clients.

The nostr address (or NIP-05 ID) is a little more “unique”. It’s created by adding a DNS record on a particular domain that is linked to your specific npub. Some NIP-05s are free: someone owns a domain and will add the record for you, so you could then create yourname@theirdomain.com as your unique ID.

There are also providers, like the one I use, the OG nostrplebs.com from nostr:npub1g6ghj36a9y9d6p4vz4rq6z8rwrqxm6evllnlhkt26e55h9y0q6psv4hu7v (and nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj too, right?) where you can pay a few sats for the ID. This could also be used in a professional environment to be yourname@yourcompany.com which is *sort of* a loose proof of identity, at least with businesses where the domain is recognizable and access to the DNS is relatively secure.

Names/IDs/discovery of users is definitely still a work in progress on Nostr, especially because different clients have different levels of capability when it comes to search and tagging. But you can think of it as different ways to represent your account that can help other users find you (or sometimes not help, lol)

Anyway, hope *this* helps!

Thaaank you i almsot tagged you your really only person off the top of my head who I know regularly uses iPhone. 😅

Hahaha any time brother 🫂

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All good.

I went with verified-Nostr so just waiting for it to populate to see how it appears.

I chose that one because I thought it might seem more legit from a business use case when someone views it.

That works! I’ve seen it before but not super familiar - is it a paid service? (Not that it matters all that much).

Do you have a website for your business? Most legit would be to have something like jason@yourbiz.com

Here’s how to set the DNS if so:

https://easydns.com/blog/2023/03/12/easynostr-setup-your-nip-05-id-under-your-own-domain-or-use-one-of-ours/

Yea it’s https://abovethelineleader.com

But using one’s own domain to verify oneself seems a bit narcissistic LOL

I can always change my verification method in the future…

It’s not verification

Which is why using a 3rd party to "verify" makes more sense to me 😃

Congratulations on being misled into thinking you got verification when it is not verification

It’s just a unique username

Eh, it depends though, doesn’t it?

A nip-05 on your company’s domain is presumably “verification” (for lack of a better term) that you do in fact work with the given business. At least in the majority of non-adversarial situations, where you can expect a company’s domain/registrar isn’t compromised.

A paid nip-05 is “verification” that you’re willing/able to spend a few sats, and are therefore much less likely to have come from a bot farm. Proof-of-funds if not perfect proof-of human…

A free nip-05 is, I agree, just a unique username. Coming from legacy social media, it’s going to take time to re-educate on how identification “works”. I expect that will happen in tandem with nostr clients becoming more versatile (and/or perhaps more standardized) in terms of how they display user profiles and handle search.

In the transition from legacy social media to nostr/keypair-based communication protocol, people will want to give their legacy followers a familiar way to find them - so if I “verify” in a Twitter post that you can find me at sexynip05@nostr.love, it provides a unique/reliable way to find me, for users who aren’t familiar with the concept of keypair crypto.

Is it less resilient and censorship-resistant? Of course. And those are important parts of what Nostr is about. Ideally as new users enter, it will pose opportunities for more and more people to learn these concepts and why they matter, such that maybe in 10 years it will be as commonplace as knowing how to attach documents to an email.

I’m curious though, if there’s a significant hole in my thinking here Semi?