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Honestly I don't get why we get into convoluted trusted solutions (trust the statechain entity bro, trust the federation bro) when Phoenix exists.

People will freak out at the onboarding fee without realizing how cheap it is compared to the cost of DIY (I'm talking "mental cost"). IMHO there are 3 factors that can explain this:

- people don't understand how LN works and are afraid of using Phoenix (vs custodial solutions)

- people don't care about self-custody

- people don't use Bitcoin as payment enough to see the point of Phoenix.
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Gareth Kitchen 1d ago

Why should people care about all these things? Payments should be as straightforward as cash.

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Fanis 1d ago

Agreed, that's why Phoenix tries to abstract pretty much everything away from the user. Maybe they could abstract even more things, but then since it's self custody there are things you **have** to tell the user. And when you charge them fees, users **want** to know how much and why. Seems to me that's the only two things Phoenix still explains in its interface.