did you already download Phoenix wallet, anon?๐Ÿ˜

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yea

using it already or getting ready to set it up now that mempool is clearing up? ๐Ÿ‘€

starting to get ready to set it up one of these days, waiting for fees to be reasonable

lfg

Yes

oohlala love it

already using it or getting ready to setup?

Itโ€™s been a few months now. I was using Muun before that but saw people saying itโ€™s not that good so I switched

nicee ๐Ÿค—

How about you ? ๐Ÿ™‚

Yes but not actively using it, except for lnauth.

wym w lnauth?

You can login with lightning on some websites ๐Ÿ‘€

https://lightninglogin.live/

aah yes, i use alby extension on browser

why u use phoenix in particular for that?

Not all apps support it. Phoenix and breeze do. I think wos doesn't.

awesome

this looks interesting!

i have to check if #[5]โ€‹ is supporting this ๐Ÿค”

It does :)

really? great!

Got it. But, not set up yet.

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awesome ๐Ÿ˜

were you already using it?

Switched from Muun a couple days ago

how were the fees ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Canโ€™t move the last amount of Sats from it lol, Iโ€™ll try using it for Zaps later

but how were the fees during migrating, couple days ago mempool stsrted to become insane, noh?

Wasnโ€™t bad every 7000 sat was 1 sat

that's not bad indeed

Hmmโ€ฆprobably should, eh?

there's no better time, setup is as easy as WoS..

just wait a little untill mempool clears some more initialize the wallet (aka top it up w sats)

Phoenix is the new midnight

idk what that means but i like the sound of it

Right? A global rebirthing

I would wait with funding phoenix wallet until fees are a bit lower.

Noโ€ฆ should I? Well, given the note, Iโ€™m assuming yes, so I should ask โ€œwhy should I?โ€

Phoenix is a self-custodial bitcoin lightning wallet that acts as a Bitcoin lightning node on your phone.

You get 12 words (= your seedphrase) with which you can restore your funds anytime if you lose your phone.

you control your keys, phoenix cannot rug you

wallet of satoshi for example can (not that they have this intention, but using centralised custodians opens you up to a lot of vulnerabilities to indeed lose your sats)

so, no trust required with phoenix.

read more here: https://lnshort.it/lnwalletguidenostr also read the FAQ on their website phoenix.acinq.co

Self custodial is great & vital (IMHO) but several wallets offer that.

I did not realize that it was possible to have a lightning node right on your phone! Thatโ€™s amazing! Iโ€™m going to need to look into that and likely download/run it.

yes, not only phoenix. breez and blixt too.

but phoenix imo easiest.

which one do you like?

i still use wos/ln.tips to receive zaps on here tho btw

phoenix doesnt offer a way to receive zaps (lnurl), but you can still send from it.

.. i basically use it as a secure way to save bitcoin in on bitcoin lightning and it can swap L1<>L2

bitcoin on-chain is for deep cold storage (longterm saving)

you want to setup phoenix BEFORE the mempool fees (onchain) become high, this so you can still transact with like 1 sat in fee, independent of the mempool fee environment..

while it would cost a premium price for everyone else to move bitcoin around on l1 and between l1 and l2, you'll be able to still send v cheaply and lightning fast.. in a self-custodial way.

I prefer to feel the Breez ๐Ÿ˜‚

i should test that one out once

also, any reason you prefer breeze?

I like the additional features like NFC and point of sale interface. Also can open channels to any node, although the default channels with Breez seem to work fine. It has some other integrations with podcasts and some services like Bitrefill, but I donโ€™t use them much. They did some upgrades last year that significantly increased the speed with syncing and sending/receiving.

sounds good. def gonna be my next one then i think.

I just did. Now what? ๐Ÿ˜

Can I generate a reusable lnurl with phoenix?

no, only thing that's not possible with a ln node on your phone (yet)

so see it more as a saving account on L2 to mitigate a potential future high onchain fee environment

Thanks! Lightning is a beast. Trying my best to figure it all out ๐Ÿ˜.

same heree haha never-ending rabbitholes

best to just try it out and practice to learn, for me at least