Before everyone loses their shit, how is this different than you _voluntarily_ just storing your seedphrase in cloud storage or using the backup only in multisig in lieu of Casa/unchained?

I guess it’s more of a honeypot than the other options but let’s not pretend there are no legitimate use cases for 3rd party key storage.

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It helps adoption. Not everyone is as tech savvy as we are. This solves this. Same with wallets storing it on a cloud server. Definitely not the safest route. But some people only know how to keep on exchange which is even more sketch. I was against this till I read more. Pays to not assume .

With this update it's now possible for your private key to leave the device, whether you opt-in or not. The firmware is also closed source... this is beyond stupid for a hardware device.

You are correct. I think the concern with this one though is the idea that Ledger can retrieve your seed phrase with a firmware update. It isn't clear to me though that this is what Ledger is offering or capable of doing. I think folks are speculating some from the Q&A. This planned service from Ledger may be a thing where you provide your seed phrase in some manner voluntarily, maybe upon the seed phrase creation phase of setting up a device. I have heard it involves encrypted shards and multiple custodians. I am going to wait for more information.