It's a lot of nice land. I just did some hiking in the Jefferson National Forest. It's huge! And that's just a few hours from eastern seaboard.

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There are some that I don't want to mess with. National forests, swamps, or other ecologically diverse places.

But there's a lot of hilly land in the west that's not ecologically interesting at all. They argue that people don't want it, which is why they keep it. I want it...