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By popular demand, Start9 has provided a brief compare/contrast between StartOS and Umbrel.

HOW ARE THEY ALIKE?

Both Umbrel and StartOS dramatically simplify the process of discovering, downloading, and installing services onto a private server, and that is where the similarities end.

HOW ARE THEY DIFFERENT?

**Appearance**

Umbrel uses MacOS's aethetic. The user interface is clean, colorful, and customizable. StartOS offers a functional design with little color or customization.

**Services**

As of May 30, 2023, there are approximately 100 services available for Umbrel, and 40 services available for StartOS. Both offer developer docs that permit anyone anywhere to package anything, and neither is capable of gatekeeping.

**Architecture**

Umbrel itself is an *app* that can be *installed* onto most Debian or Ubuntu computers and virtual machines. StartOS is an *operating system* (Linux distro) that can be *flashed* onto most computers and virtual machines.

**Config**

Services often provide config files, such as Bitcoin's bitcoin.conf. On Umbrel, updating config files requires using SSH and the command line. With StartOS, config files are presented as rich forms, including descriptions, downdowns, toggles, validated inputs, etc.

**Backups**

When it comes to self-hosting, nothing is more important than making backups. With the exception of LND, Umbrel does not provide a means of backing up services. With StartOS, encrypted backups can be made by pushing a button.

**Encryption**

On Umbrel, communications over the LAN are done over plain http. This means that anyone connected to your home WiFi network can trivially steal your passwords and money. With StartOS, communications over the LAN are done over encrypted https.

**Monitoring**

Umbrel does not provide tools for monitoring the health or performance of services. SSH and the command line are needed to view service logs. StartOS offers custom health checks that display service health, and a live screen for viewing service logs.

**DIY Options**

Both Umbrel and StartOS can be installed for free. As an app, Umbrel can be installed on the Raspberry Pi and devices running Debian or Ubuntu. As an operating system, StartOS can be flashed on just about any computer or virtual machine.

**Price**

Both companies offer plug and play devices. Umbrel offers a single device for $700. It has a 2.9GHz processor, 16GB of RAM, and a 2TB NVMe SSD. Start9 offers the same device for $563.

Start9 also has other options ranging from $199 to $1546

And both share the feature that they arent open source.

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Do you know of any open source alternative to these? I'm not fully convinced by Umbrell so far

Raspibolt and Raspiblitz are your best choices.

The former walks you through setup so you can learn command line, the latter is more rapid. Both have great support communities through telegram.

I don't have a Raspberry. I'm currently running Umbrell on a external SSD plugged into an old laptop running Ubuntu.

I take it it's not a common setup, but that's what I have for now, and what I'll probably have until the price of a RPi isn't 4x the retail price.

Raspibolt has bonus guides for installing on x86 if you go that route. But you can stick with the laptop as youve got it setup.

Cheers, I'll check it out and see what to do. As I said, not fully convinced by Umbrel so far.

BTW, I just found this: https://github.com/Start9Labs/

Yes. It's source available, but not free open source software. https://github.com/Start9Labs/start-os/blob/master/LICENSE.md

I’ve never run one. What portions of Start are not FOSS?

The OS

oooh they were looking so good…guess another swing n a miss

I thought it was Debian.

Yep. It’s Debian. The front-end is under a custom fairly permissive license that allows modification and distribution, but not sales.