Personally I think the very idea of a Loving God that would condemn a person to eternal torment for one human lifetime of not managing to believe the right dogma is completely and totally absurd and contradictory. God created us imperfect. To then punish us forever for being imperfect would be completely psychotic.

I doubt people as knowing "The Way" that have such a twisted theology.

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Your complaint is common, twisting God into a petty sadist, but that’s a straw man. A loving God doesn’t doom us for stumbling over doctrine—He’s the one who opens eyes to truth.

We’re not punished for being imperfect by design; our ruin traces back to a rebellion we’re born into, a nature that rejects Him.

Eternal torment isn’t some unhinged overreaction; it’s the fitting end for souls that, left to themselves, cling to darkness over light.

God’s not deranged for letting justice roll; He’s holy. You scoff at the outcome, but the marvel is He spares anyone at all.

Twisting? It is what the dogma says. I never looked at God that way. But it is what the creed says. Being born guilty is not the act of loving or rational God either. More silly dogma. Eternal punishment with no chance of reprieve is pure evil torture for nothing. If that is your God or your conception of God then perhaps you are deranged.

It isn't mere dogmatics. Scripture is clear about the cause and nature of original sin.

Re: "torture for nothing"

What do you think a just and loving God should do to unrepentant sinners instead of eternal hell? Honest question.

Why is scripture, which was largely tuned by the Catholic Church, in a Bible full of contradictions, any standard at all? Punishing people for eternity for merely not encountering and affirming the right doctrine can hardly be a just and loving act. God created us imperfect according to the Bible. FWIW

Scripture is older than the Roman Church

The bible is full of apparent contradictions that one finds are not actual contradictions with careful study.

There is such a thing as absolute truth and objective moral standards. The Scriptures are the best account for this reality.

Hell is not for deniers of right doctrine but deniers of the lordship of Christ and their need for salvation.

I encourage you to spend a more time studying scripture, if for no other reason than to steelman your opponents.

God establishes this "justice". That is no better.

Compared to what?