Nostr Web Client

The problem is that all of the things you are building, regardless of how easy it might be (compared to what, normal web dev?), would be censored at scale because Nostr relies on ICANN/DNS.

The relay model is flawed in that it is just a reconstruction of websites to separate the client from the content. But it behaves no differently than having your data on multiple websites.

Pubky uses public keys as domain names themselves, where the user controls where they point.

This ends up changing everything, even allowing us to choose different data models, and establish truly open and decentralized social graphs and search indexes.

Nostr can't do this stuff without faking half of it.

mike 5mo ago

What about RIPE, Nominet or me.

I run my own DNS with my own naming structure, but even then I don't need to, I use static IP's for some services.

I run my own authoritative name server for me, it subcontracts unknown searches to RIPE or Nominet and these subcontract to other root servers if need be.

IP is the only censorable part, I can run local IP's or I can set my own routing using my AS number to redirect public IPs as a wish, but mostly I wouldn't.

IPs are censorable, not DNS, but even then, I could use my AS number to route around any censorship, I could even advertise higher than the censored AS's to remove the censor.

Ultimately if a state actor like a firewalled country wishes to prevent me accessing content, then they can install a bridge. If I want to stop you accessing my network, I can physically do it. But that's how it's supposed to work, my IP my choice.

There are many 3rd party DNS alternatives that try to solve a problem they don't understand doesn't exist.

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Big Bad John 5mo ago

Your public key is something you can share with others, yet control. It's portable to any network paradigm in that sense, thus it also transcends IP and DNS.

However, that is only interesting if you have a confident discovery method. We use PKDNS by placing your signed records into the largest, oldest, most decentralized network on the planet.

You can try and reduce this to "any old name server will do" but every other options falls below PKDNS, even when you reduce it to a basic spectrum.

Should people use more than one discovery network? Sure, we all do, right? We use many identities, agents, hosts, networks, etc. But few of those could be interoperable or support user-oriented graphs.

mike 5mo ago

Really? Do tell me more about public keys 😂

To be clear, I'm not 6 years old.

Just so you know, I've had around 50 companies fail to pitch me on how to "solve" DNS for the past 30+ years.

I'm not here to shit on your parade or to attack you or to invest in you, I'm simply giving you a little bit of background from somebody that actually built the Internet we use today.

I wish you well.

inpc 5mo ago

“… from somebody that actually built the Internet we use today.”

So it’s your fault the WiFi here is shit. Thanks Mike!

mike 5mo ago

Hedy Lamarr invented WiFi, blame her 😂

inpc 5mo ago

Mark’s sister? Is she also a 50s throwback?

mike 5mo ago

In1942 she invented WiFi

During WW2 😂

inpc 5mo ago

Older sister = 40s throwback.

Big Bad John 5mo ago

Um, okay. I was just replying within the context. I don't care about your personal claims, or your money. Do you have a relevant response or refutation of what I said?

Also, consider this is social media, and I am writing for the benefit of onlookers, not necessarily to persuade you specifically. I already know teaching Nostr cultists is a waste of time.

mike 5mo ago

NOSTR cultists, love it 😂

I guess I'm also an Internet cultist, a Bitcoin cultist, an electronics cultist, a corporate cultist and a logic cultist, oh, also a cooking cultist and a cruising cultist.

I'm sure there are some other cults I'm in as well.

Good luck going forward.

I'll leave you with this thought.

There is a difference between solving a problem and offering a better solution.

If you focus on the latter , you'll have more chance.

Last piece of advice, you are clearly having difficulty interacting with people if you have to resort to insults. A key to success is not shit on anybody on the way up, you'll be amazed at how quickly all the people you shit on will bring you back down again.

Be nice, it costs nothing and works incredibly well, even if you fake it.

Genuinely, I wish you well and every success.

Big Bad John 5mo ago

You acted as if you wanted to have a design conversation, and then resorted to boring style policing when it got real.

It's clear you have nothing useful to say. I doubt you know much about Bitcoin either.

Zzzzzz

mike 5mo ago

Very interesting conversation.

Thank you.

You've helped me make a decision I was unsure about until now.

Big Bad John 5mo ago

Write a book about it.