There is no censorship, you're just rewarded for bad takes

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That's soft censorship. Same as the reddit downvote. The outcome is the same: Dissent gets squashed, conformity gets elevated. The means are just ones that let you pretend you're not censoring anybody.

In the end, the dissenter is still cast into the void.

The village casting out a pariah is very different from a king doing so…

That's just 50 kings doing so.

From a moral perspective, it's identical.

Completely incorrect

All of the principles are the same. The decision being made by 50 people instead of 1 changes nothing substantial.

Quality rising and garbage being buried isn’t censorship it’s natural selection. No one is stopping you from being garbage, you just can’t force people to like it or amplify it.

That's literally censorship by "natural selection." The means is different, the intent and the ends are identical.

You can easily force people to see things they don't agree with: Don't have zaps, don't have an algorithm, don't have a block button, don't have administrators.

It's called free speech in public.

It’s not censorship, censorship is you not being able to speak. People can utilize their freedom to not listen to garbage if they don’t want to. Are you one of those forcing equity on everyone people?

>censorship is you not being able to speak.

Which is precisely the end result.

You can’t force people to listen to your dumb shit dude sorry. People opting out is their freedom and you getting to still talk is yours.

One takes the other away. Speech is a two way street, and requires a listener.

Speech does not require a listener. Check out all the crazy dudes on the NYC subways. They are talking. No one is listening.

I talk to myself all the time. 🤣

Imagine if that's all you could do.

That's what you are doing to people.

Ignoring people with bad ideas is self-care.

No, it's living in a bubble.

Instead of "self care," become stronger.

You are so used to just ignoring anything you disagree with that your argument muscles have atrophied from disuse.

I feel like I agree with your idea on a personal level. I try to listen to people who I disagree with in order to learn. But that’s different from free speech where others are free not to listen and still everyone’s allowed to keep talking.

It's not a matter of "try to listen." You are obligated to hear people out. You owe it to them as part of their right to free speech. No one is free not to listen. If the village collectively chooses not to listen to someone, that is identical to him being unable to speak.

You’ve done nothing but troll me and I’m still here disagreeing with your fucking bullshit because my argument muscles are not even challenged by your bullshit. Sometimes I choose to ignore your bullshit. That is my fucking freedom. Your superiority complex indicates raging insecurity. I think your intelligence muscles have atrophied.

You just insist i'm a troll as an unfalsifiable hypothesis because it's a convenient excuse to dismiss me.

It is not your freedom to censor people sorry sweety.

The fact that you dismiss disagreement as trolling is a great argument for why you should have no power to discern something as trolling and remove it.

Oh snap, Alana owns your soul!

It’s not disagreeing with me that I am considering trolling, it’s calling me a whore when I’m actually giving away money. Worst whore ever. Then he says that because I don’t want to listen to him calling me a whore, I’m censoring him, even though he is still here today saying his bullshit. Absurd lol

Yeah, you're good. Anyone who knows you knows you're the real deal. You're a real contributor to this space. You put out videos shaming shitcoiners. You constantly put out great tweets (how I met you), and now great notes. And your muscles against the trolls are strong indeed. That's because you actually have something to say that is of value. Forget this fool.

I appreciate your view of me. Thank you 🙏

You commodify your attention, that's whoring.

She’s got your attention. And she doesn’t even want it.

Mine isn't a commodity, I give it freely.

No one WANTS to be harshly criticized.

That's why you should not be able to opt out.

> I’m censoring him, even though he is still here today saying his bullshit.

I have seen MANY of you people saying some variation of "Just ignore him and he will leave."

So you clearly are trying to manipulate me into leaving and being silent.

That's not really speech then, is it? It's just noise.

Lots of speech is just noise.

If you intentionally try not to get my point I can't help you.

I get your point, but you’re confusing the right to free speech with the right of representation.

He doesn’t understand that it’s not that any of us don’t get what he saying. We just think it’s bullshit. Annoying noise that contributes actually nothing of merit. Stupid gets amplified in legacy channels. He’s used to that.

You can’t force people to listen without taking away their freedom, sounds like fascism to me

You ought not have the freedom to ostracize members of your community.

It's called power, get used to it

No.

Natural selection lol

He wants equity for the intellectually challenged

You're team social darwinism yet you call me the fascist lol

Individual members shouldn’t have that power (per se), kings shouldn’t, but the collective should.

Here’s the big difference, on Nostr, you shouldn’t ever be completely muted.

The ostracized should always be able to have a voice.

And they do.

You can't ban murder without taking people's right to kill.

ALL rights necessarily limit freedoms. That's what they do.

We don’t have a right to kill, we have a right to defense.

Precisely why it's totally okay to take that nonexistant "right" away to protect one that really exists. Just like a "right" to make pariahs does not exist, and must be taken away to ensure a right to free speech.

Makes no sense

Why are you retweeting your own posts lol

Do you need your cabal for backup?

OK I have to wade into this nonsense now...

People choosing to ignore you is NOT censorship. You are free to express yourself, and others are free to not give a shit.

Yes, it is.

You have a twisted view of interpersonal communication where you believe that people are obligated to listen to what you have to say. This is not true.

If you are going to coexist in a village with people, everyone in that village has a right to be heard and redress their grievances. You cannot simply ignore your neighbor. He has a right to tell you your petunias are fucking up his cabbages.