Ok. If you believe BTC will outpace XMR in value over the longterm, you don't have to hodl XMR to take advantage of it's superior privacy and fungibility. That's a separate issue. But yes, do whatever you want idgaf either.
You all are not necessarily saying this - I just have a problem with claiming BTC is the best in every aspect imaginable. Clearly not true. Some maxis cannot admit that another crypto could have any advantage over bitcoin.
You guys also can, but dont admit that privacy is a spectrum that is highly dependant on etiquette of the individual & spend ability.
I'd rather put in the effort to obtain bitcoin privately, so I can later spend it wherever i want.
I believe that to be quite an easy accomplishment that advantages the user far beyond what monero can offer me.
The beauty of hiding in plain sight within the largest anon-set 🤙.
Are you under the impression that you can spend Bitcoin anywhere?
So far ive been able to spend my bitcoin everytime ive needed to through various channels.
Are you under the impression that monero has more merchants and liquidity than Bitcoin? 🤪
You can’t really spend either anywhere, practically nobody accepts any sort of crypto.
Bitcoiners have largely lost all adversarial thinking that has made it great.
They expect the best, and plan for the best as if they have already won, but the game has just started. The state has not seriously cracked down at all yet.
Now that we've gotten to what I call the "cope" part of the argument...
Funny meme, but no idea where you're getting me coping from.
Was Bitcoin created to solve the problem of liquidity? Guess what has more liquidity than Bitcoin: Cuckbucks
Man, you really dont understand shit 🤪.
"Are you under the impression that monero has more merchants and liquidity than Bitcoin? 🤪"
No, you're either just forgetting what your point was or your argument is just weak.
Holy moly 🤪, in the context of privacy & spending - not some vague pissing contest of liquidity.
Where yes, some of the best ways to keep your private stack spendable, historically, was done in the most globally liquid monies - USD, GBP, Euro.
If you're trying to make some meandering point about liquidity and anonymity set, fine.
But don't act like all of bitcoin's liquidity is your anonymity set when it is a tiny fraction that is more comparable to Monero anonymity set.
And the ease and effectiveness of that privacy is a whole other argument.
If you feel like youre better off using monero, go for it man.
They are adults, (I hope), can't stop them.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.
You can lead a human to knowledge, but you can't make them think.
Drop you XMR address and I'll send you some.
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tell people that if they install the monero gui and download the blockchain they can mine monero on any computer, even on the phone. some people mine it on their car stereo. bitcoin could be mined on any computer until 2015 or so then it became impossible. today it can only be mined with special asics which are extremely expensive, short in supply and regulated. buyers need to submit all of their personal data before they get it shipped. the entry into bitcoin mining is extremely high, only corporations or billionaires can enter.
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on 0.03131 xmr the fee was only 0.00003066 XMR
yes! Holy Moly 🤣
Bitcoin is the only crypto currency most regulators don’t see as a security. So state crack downs bring it on.
This is the cucked attitude I'm talking about. The whole point of crypto is making the opinion of regulators irrelevant, otherwise it is useless.
Bitcoin/Crypto can’t be regulated it’s the extanges that need to be. Mass adoption can’t happen without regulation of the scam ponzi extanges. Crypto is about self custody, peer to peer and scarcity. However regulation over the centralized part of Bitcoin/Crypto is completely fine. You shitcoiners hate that because half the shit coins are centralized ponzi’s. 🤣
Not only can Bitcoin be regulated, it would be easy to do.
Tell that to China bud also It’s much harder in democratic country’s.
This guy is relying on the good graces of his government for bitcoin to succeed. Laughable.
There’s a Difference between success and mainstream. Bitcoin has already succeeded in my eyes. I can see why BTCfiend muted y’all. You shitcoiners talk more than bots do jeeezus. Muted bye.
This. It’s entirely possible that Bitcoin, or all crypto, could be hyper regulated or made illegal in the future and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
It’s not the savior people think it is.
The only thing im saved from is debasement.
Everything else is possible, yet the probability of certain events occurring varies widely between jurisdictions.
I'm betting on Bitcoin's characteristics, you're not - so be it - but its a lame argument if you dont provide specific jurisdictions with some sore of timeline - that at least would be a more respectable prediction / use of everyone's time.
I hope Bitcoin succeeds and becomes better and better to the point where Monero is not needed.
But sometimes it seems like the same mindset that made it great is not prevalent in Bitcoin's community anymore for the most part.
not enforceable
It absolutely is. This is delusional.
explain how?
Well, you have to report it on your taxes, so there’s already a de facto registry of who owns crypto. The only convenient way to get it is through an exchange, all of which collect your ID, your address, etc. And for most coins you can see a record of every transaction.
I honestly can’t imagine many things easier to enforce than Bitcoin regulation.
This is laughable. The point of Bitcoin is to exit the government digital system. If I need to, I sell Bitcoin for cash or spend it. You are heavily indoctrinated unfortunately. I've never used an exchange in my life unless its decentralized and KYC free running over tor and vpn like BISQ. And im sure many others here operate the same way. There is a lot we can teach you.
they key word you mentioned is "convenient". Not everyone prefers "convenient" ways. *sigh*
Yes, they do. Massive cope.
sheeple will be sheeple
again not enforceable for those who have the desire to know what they are doing. Good luck preaching :)
But that's not what you said. You said it's unenforcable. The reality is it would be easy.
Bitcoin exchanges are not Bitcoin. Banning Bitcoin is unenforceable.
You're right privacy is a spectrum, so why not make it as easy as possible to achieve and hard as possible to mess up that privacy?
Bitcoin anon set is only as large as those who stick to best privacy practices, it is not all of bitcoin.
A very tiny fraction of bitcoiners do this.
This just isn't true, messing up privacy is exactly the same action both ways.
No it isn't the same at all. Way more pitfalls with Bitcoin.
Privacy with Monero is not only much easier, but superior (receiver and amounts are never revealed onchain) and covers more layers compared to Bitcoin.
